Re: Next step for biodiversity terms

Hi Alasdair,

Thanks for the update and your work on this.  In the spirit of
demonstrating adoption, I think it would be great if the recommendation
reflected greater alignment with existing namespaces that are widely used
in taxonomy, such as Darwin Core, https://dwc.tdwg.org/terms/#taxon .

I think this would greatly facilitate adoption.  For instance, the current
specification provides no mechanism to disambiguate synonyms (
https://dwc.tdwg.org/terms/#dwc:taxonomicStatus,
https://dwc.tdwg.org/terms/#dwc:acceptedNameUsageID) or taxonomic
concepts.  I'm also unclear on the utility of `childTaxon` and
`hasDefinedTerm` in the current bioschemas spec.  Apologies if I've missed
the boat on these discussions already, but these are certainly barriers to
me in using bioschemas over an existing namespace like Darwin Core.  (Also
cc'ing Rob Guralnick on this who has far more expertise than I in this area
and could speak more broadly to the potential for adoption of
https://bioschemas.org/types/Taxon/0.3-RELEASE-2019_11_18/)

Cheers,

Carl



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Carl Boettiger
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 4:04 AM Gray, Alasdair J G <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Franck,
>
> Sorry for the slowness of my response, I have been off work for most of
> January and am now catching up with things.
>
> The status of getting things added to Schema.org is that we need to
> demonstrate usage of the deployed markup rather than just deployments of
> it. This is the focus of the latest ELIXIR sponsored project which will be
> aiming to demonstrate benefit of the markup within specific areas: rare
> disease, plants, intrinsically disordered proteins, and toxicology. This
> work will be running over the next 23 months.
>
> As such, we should not delay work on other types. So yes, we should
> progress the work on Taxon and TaxonName.
>
> The restructuring of the website that we conducted at the tail end of last
> year was motivated by making it clearer as to which profiles and types are
> released for general use and which are still under development.
>
> Best regards
>
> Alasdair
>
>
> On 11 Feb 2020, at 17:04, LJ.Garcia <lj.garcia.co@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am away this week so please allow me some extra days to have a look to
> this.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2020, Franck Michel <franck.michel@cnrs.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Alasdair and Leyla,
>>
>> I was wondering if you had time to check my last reply in issue 309
>> <https://github.com/BioSchemas/specifications/issues/309#issuecomment-576247584>.
>> I was suggesting that, if endorsing of the Taxon term by schema.org is
>> still gonna take some time, what about trying to move directly to the new
>> couple (Taxon, TaxonName) that we have discussed since mid-2019.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Thx,
>>     Franck.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
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>> Université Côte d’Azur, CNRS, Inria
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>>
>>
>
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