Re: AWWSW homework for 2007-12-11

>Our starting point remains this document: 
>http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswTopicsBrainstormPage . It appears it 
>didn't get much attention prior to the last meeting, so I hope 
>everyone gets a chance to review it this time.
>
>The last meeting began at the top of the file by considering the 
>question of what might one infer from a 200 response. Of course 
>we're not at a point where we can even ask this meaningfully; we 
>immediately got onto the question of whether by "permitting" any 
>inferences at all we're interpreting or extending HTTP 1.1, or doing 
>something else. I've expanded on the result of this discussion a bit 
>in the wiki page.
>
>I remember that on the call Pat said something of the form "but the 
>real problem to be solved here is ...". Unfortunately this didn't 
>find its way into the meeting record and I don't remember the rest 
>of the sentence.

Neither does Pat, unfortunately. I wonder what the hell he was thinking.

>  Pat, could you give your ideas on where a group like this might 
>best put its efforts? For background, the assumption is that 
>formalizing HTTP (or rather some "best practices" 
>extension/restriction/fragment of it) would benefit semantic web 
>agents such as Tabulator, applications that want to be extra careful 
>about provenance (where did something get said - in a resource? in a 
>particular representation? in a response? in an "essence"?), and 
>many other kinds of applications.

Yas, and Im sure that in principle it could and in practice it will 
in a few ways, but...

>I was also personally of the opinion that formalization could help 
>force answers to many of the thorny questions that keep arising as a 
>result of vagueness and ambiguity in AWWW and other informal 
>specifications,

... seems to me that this is the best and most immediate outcome, frankly.

>and that such clarification would make everyone happier; but I don't 
>know whether anyone agrees with me on that. So we are not starting 
>with a crisp problem statement here, and maybe that's a bad thing.

As I see it, the main purpose is to do some extra baking to get things crisper.

MOare later, this in haste (hence lack of sustantive content.)

Pat

>
>Jonathan


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