Re: (Minutes) RE: RSI Task Force Call - Asia/Europe Friendly

I had put protocol and accompanying specs from VW Submission on Github.

https://github.com/w3c/automotive-bg/tree/gh-pages/rsi

Remaining action for me is to get it into ReSpec (html template and JS
for W3C specs). I'll put editors' names, W3C ids in during the process
and may make some formatting changes at the same time.

In the meantime people are welcome to start making modifications such
as s/ViWi/RSI/g.

I went with gh-pages as the main branch since it works better with
github.io and our publications system.

On Wed, 2017-07-26 at 09:00 +0000, 이원석 wrote:
> Hi. Below is the minutes of today’s chat meeting J
> -      Participants: Patrick, Hyojin, Urata, Wonsuk
>  
> [16:09] <PatrickLue> Agenda?
> [16:10] <PatrickLue> Will be at a real desk in 20 min
> [16:10] <wonsuk> First item is what's going on in github for rsi
> [16:10] <PatrickLue> I have not seen the link to it yet
> [16:10] <PatrickLue> Did I miss it?
> [16:11] <wonsuk> you mean a link for agenda today?
> [16:11] <PatrickLue> Where it is on github
> [16:12] <hyojin> I wonder the github repository for RSI as well.
> [16:12] <wonsuk> okay
> [16:12] <wonsuk> https://github.com/wzr1337/rsiServer
> [16:12] <PatrickLue> This one
> [16:12] <wonsuk> yes
> [16:12] <PatrickLue> Ok
> [16:13] <PatrickLue> I thought the protocol. I was under the
> impression Ted wanted to upload the protocol to the w3c github space
> [16:13] <PatrickLue> The rsi server is progressing
> [16:14] <PatrickLue> New features every other day
> [16:14] <PatrickLue> Discussion is currently around a plugin system
> [16:14] <PatrickLue> The plugin system allows specific services to be
> implemented easily
> [16:14] <PatrickLue> And in a different repo
> [16:15] <wonsuk> like media and media library?
> [16:15] <PatrickLue> Yes
> [16:16] <PatrickLue> These are in a plugin directory. But the concept
> is not really finalized
> [16:16] <wonsuk> okay... then what is scope of rsi server?
> [16:16] <PatrickLue> A few guys are exchanging ideas right now
> [16:17] <PatrickLue> The main scope is a platform for rsi based
> services
> [16:17] <PatrickLue> So that the protocol does not have to be
> reimplemented
> [16:17] <PatrickLue> Every time
> [16:17] <wonsuk> yes
> [16:17] <PatrickLue> But it is not meant for production
> [16:18] <PatrickLue> Just for mock functionality
> [16:19] <wonsuk> you mean current implementation is the prototype for
> idea for rsi
> [16:19] <wonsuk> am I right?
> [16:19] <PatrickLue> Yes
> [16:19] <PatrickLue> The scope for that rsi server
> [16:20] <PatrickLue> Once we finalized a protocol a implementation
> for production may follow
> [16:20] <PatrickLue> Right now testing the concept is the most
> important job
> [16:22] <hyojin> Is there a page for RSI design and overview? The
> following link seems one of the pages: https://www.w3.org/Submission/
> 2016/01/
> [16:22] == kaz [ashimura@public.cloak] has joined #auto
> [16:23] <wonsuk> I think rsi server is related with esp. https://www.
> w3.org/Submission/2016/SUBM-viwi-protocol-20161213/
> [16:23] <PatrickLue> The link describes our submission
> [16:23] <PatrickLue> Correct
> [16:23] <PatrickLue> That link describes just the protocol
> [16:23] <hyojin> Right. I'm looking into the page now.
> [16:23] <PatrickLue> The plugins would reference to the other links
> in the submission
> [16:24] <hyojin> got it
> [16:24] == PatrickLue_ [~PatrickLue@public.cloak] has joined #auto
> [16:24] <PatrickLue_> ah. a real keyboard
> [16:24] <PatrickLue_> so much better
> [16:24] <wonsuk> hahaha
> [16:24] <wonsuk> I guess so
> [16:25] <wonsuk> Before this chat I did git clone for rsi server
> [16:26] <hyojin> Could Kaz help us?
> [16:26] <wonsuk> rsi server is working I am not sure how can I test
> this
> [16:26] <PatrickLue_> so to summarize: rsi server implements the
> VIWI/RSI protocol
> [16:27] <PatrickLue_> the plugins for the rsi server implement the
> other submission (or will)
> [16:27] <PatrickLue_> what we are missing right now is a github repo
> with the current protocol and service descriptions so that we can
> work on it together
> [16:28] <PatrickLue_> when starting the rsi server you will get an
> open port, i think on 5000
> [16:28] <hyojin> Could I test the RSI server from the guide in https:
> //github.com/wzr1337/rsiServer? Is it working now?
> [16:28] <hyojin> After that, I could follow the issues in the github.
> [16:28] <wonsuk> port is 3000 :-)
> [16:29] <PatrickLue_> if you connect via http to it you will receive
> the structured answer from there
> [16:29] <wonsuk> okay
> [16:29] <PatrickLue_> as far as I know the current master branch
> works fine.
> [16:29] <wonsuk> It works
> [16:30] <PatrickLue_> to answer that the other patrick would be
> better
> [16:30] <PatrickLue_> If develop is more interesting right now i do
> not know
> [16:31] <wonsuk> do you know media and media library plug-in are
> working with rsi server?
> [16:32] <PatrickLue_> yes it is. last time i checked it was using
> lame to play music
> [16:32] <PatrickLue_> patrick and i presented it at the last members
> meeting in birmingham
> [16:32] <PatrickLue_> worked fine.
> [16:33] <PatrickLue_> but do not expect a full features media library
> and media player
> [16:33] <PatrickLue_> the main goal was to show of the concept
> [16:33] <PatrickLue_> so all hard question we came up with were
> answered.
> [16:33] <wonsuk> okay. there is some docs I can test plugins?
> [16:33] <PatrickLue_> i think there is not right now.
> [16:34] <PatrickLue_> let me find the issue quickly where this topic
> is discussed
> [16:34] <PatrickLue_> https://github.com/wzr1337/rsiServer/issues/41
> [16:35] <PatrickLue_> that one discusses how to handle plugins in
> general. not final yet.
> [16:35] <PatrickLue_> https://github.com/wzr1337/rsiServer/issues/44 
> this one describes how we could handle dependencies brought in by the
> plugins.
> [16:35] <PatrickLue_> this may influence the plugin infrastructure
> again discussed in issue 41
> [16:36] <hyojin> Is @wzr1337 PatrickLue_? or the other Patrick?
> [16:37] <PatrickLue_> the other Patrick, Patrick Bartsch
> [16:37] <wonsuk> hahaha :-)
> [16:37] <hyojin> Thank you :-)
> [16:37] <PatrickLue_> I am PatrickLue on Github. Not that imaginitive
> [16:38] <wonsuk> For the contributors it's nice if this repo provide
> how to test it with client and plugins
> [16:39] <PatrickLue_> would you be so kind and post that as an issue?
> The guys around the rsi server and not really that close to the W3C
> effords
> [16:39] <wonsuk> okay! I will
> [16:40] <wonsuk> any other comment on this?
> [16:41] <urata_access> No, I'm ok.
> [16:41] <PatrickLue_> me as well
> [16:41] <hyojin> It would be more concrete agenda to proceed this
> call. Who can organize the issues that need to be discussed?
> [16:41] <wonsuk> This call is not settle down yet
> [16:43] <urata_access> I'd like to know rough roadmap or schedule if
> possible
> [16:43] <wonsuk> so now I guess issue list in github might be an
> agenda basically
> [16:44] <hyojin> agree with Urata-san, but it needs some time, not
> right now.
> [16:45] <urata_access> I agree. May be roadmap is not yet defined.
> [16:45] <PatrickLue_> let us concentrate on a road map for the next
> call
> [16:46] <wonsuk> good idea.
> [16:46] <urata_access> yeah, that's good.
> [16:47] <wonsuk> Patrick could you discuss with PatrickB for rsi
> roadmap ?
> [16:47] <wonsuk> Before the call?
> [16:47] <PatrickLue_> I will
> [16:47] <wonsuk> Thanks!
> [16:48] <wonsuk> Regarding LBS, https://github.com/j3ss5t/viwiLocatio
> nBasedServices, this also will be an one of plugin for rsi server
> [16:48] <wonsuk> right?
> [16:49] == AdamC [~AdamC@public.cloak] has joined #auto
> [16:49] * wonsuk Welcome Adam!
> [16:50] <PatrickLue_> yes it will
> [16:50] <PatrickLue_> Jonas is currently quite busy
> [16:50] <wonsuk> okay
> [16:50] <PatrickLue_> but he will join once he has time
> [16:51] <hyojin> If there would be a roadmap or an issue from Wonsuk
> before next call, I'll review it and leave some comments on that.
> [16:51] <wonsuk> I would like to clarify relation among the repos of
> RSI tf
> [16:53] <hyojin> How about unifying the repos into W3C somewhere like
> Automotive BG? Would it be still early stage?
> [16:54] <wonsuk> Partrick what do you think? is it possible?
> [16:54] <PatrickLue_> i do not know
> [16:55] <wonsuk> hahaha
> [16:55] <wonsuk> okay
> [16:55] <PatrickLue_> i am not familiar with the w3c side
> [16:55] <PatrickLue_> sorry guys
> [16:55] <PatrickLue_> have to leave
> [16:55] <wonsuk> okay!
> [16:55] <PatrickLue_> was nice doing the meeting in this way
> [16:55] <wonsuk> thanks Patrick!
> [16:55] <wonsuk> me too
> [16:55] <wonsuk> Thanks guys!
> [16:55] <wonsuk> talk you next week
> [16:55] <hyojin> Thanks for the explanations, Patrick!
> [16:56] <urata_access> Thanks all!
>  
> Kind regards,
> Wonsuk.
>  
> From: 이원석 [mailto:wonsuk.lee@etri.re.kr] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:14 PM
> To: public-autowebplatform <public-autowebplatform@w3.org>; internal-
> autowebplatform <internal-autowebplatform@w3.org>
> Subject: RSI Task Force Call - Asia/Europe Friendly
>  
> RSI Task Force Meeting - Asia/Europe Friendly
>  
> 1) Call Time: 26th July
> Seattle, USA - 12:00 midn PDT | Boston, USA - 3:00 am EDT | London,
> United Kingdom - 8:00 am BST | Munich, Germany - 9:00 am CEST |
> Beijing, China - 3:00 pm CST | Seoul, South Korea - 4:00 pm KST |
> Tokyo, Japan - 4:00 pm JST
>  
> 2) Wiki:
> https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/wiki/RSITaskForce
>  
> 3) Meeting coordinates are here:
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-autowebplatform/2017Mar
> /0005.html
>  
> Kind regards,
> Wonsuk.
-- 
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