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Re: VSS/Vehicle data consideration

From: Streif, Rudolf <rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:31:09 -0700
Message-ID: <CANpGCGLaTUu+UsMWeM4T9zyuhEnki1hhPB353eL11jNgXSiiJA@mail.gmail.com>
To: KDDI_平林様 <ta-hirabayashi@kddi.com>
Cc: Shinjiro Urata <shinjiro.urata@access-company.com>, public-automotive <public-automotive@w3.org>
Hirabayashi-san,

Question concerning the mirrors:

Signal Body Mirror mirrorTilt L




UInt8


0%: center position, +100%: fully upward, -100%: fully downward
Signal Body Mirror mirrorTilt R




UInt8



Signal Body Mirror mirrorTilt room




UInt8



Signal Body Mirror mirrorTilt aux




UInt8



Signal Body Mirror mirrorPan L




UInt8


Unit: 0%: center position, +100%: fully left, -100%: fully right
Signal Body Mirror mirrorPan R




UInt8



Signal Body Mirror mirrorPan room




UInt8



Signal Body Mirror mirrorPan aux




UInt8




What are the room and aux mirrors?

Thanks,
Rudi


On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:35 PM, <ta-hirabayashi@kddi-ri.jp> wrote:

> Rudi-san and all
>
> I appreciate your understanding and cooperation.
>
> Attached is the excel file highlighted in yellow / light-blue
> lines and reversed characters as well as summary slides of powerpoint,
> just in case.
>
> BTW, Rudi-san, can you remotely join VSS consideration session
> starting from 10:00 in Lisbon time?
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing you in WebEX online.
>
> Best regards,
>
> T.Hirabayashi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Thank you very much, Hirabayashi-san and Urata-san,
> >
> > I am going to add the missing signals indicated by the red background
> to
> > VSS.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Rudi
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Shinjiro Urata <
> > shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hirabayashi-san,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for the comparizon.
> > > By the way, it looks yellow-painted line is missing in  "160919_vss.
> csv".
> > > (This is because csv format can't hold background color info.
> > >  It should be saved as .xlsx. or something.)
> > >
> > > I think I painted again the newly added lines.
> > > Please check the attached.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Shinjiro Urata
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2016-09-19 15:13 GMT+09:00 <ta-hirabayashi@kddi-ri.jp>:
> > >
> > >> Hi, Rudi-san, Urata-san and all
> > >>
> > >> Urata-san's CSV file is really helpful! Thank you very much.
> > >>
> > >> Tentative summary I have reviewed the current VSS and Vehicle data
> spec
> > >> comparing each other are as follows:
> > >>
> > >> * Missing Data/Signal in VSS
> > >>   - Highlighted in a yellow line in vss.csv
> > >>   - The following data/signal of the Vehicle data should be at
> least
> > >> added
> > >>     to VSS;
> > >>     > VIN,WMI, brand, model, vehicle type, year
> > >>     > Accelerator/brake pedal position, steering wheel angle, tire
> > >> pressure
> > >>     > Fuel level, average/instant consumption
> > >>     > ABS, TCS, ESC, odometer, trip meter
> > >>     > Acceleration (x, y, z), gyro-data (yaw, pitch, roll),
> location
> > >> accuracy
> > >>     > Ignition on/off time, airbag deployment, cruise control, etc.
> > >>
> > >> * Changes of Data Type
> > >>   - Location data signal should comply with Section 5.4 of W3C
> > >> Geolocation
> > >>     API REC
> > >>     (https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-geolocation-API-20131024/#p
> osition)
>
> > >>   - Other signals to be reviewed are shown in reversed characters
> in vss.
> > >> csv
> > >>
> > >> * New Data/Signal to be Added
> > >>   - Some data has been missing in both VSS and Vehicle data.
> > >>     e.g. Fuel tank capacity, number of tires are highlighted in a
> > >>          light-blued line in vss.csv
> > >>
> > >> We would like to discuss the above issues in Lisbon if possible.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> T.Hirabayashi, KDDI
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > Urata-san,
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you very much. This is looking really good. There are two
> more
> > >> things
> > >> > I would like you to consider and I apologize for not bringing
> them up
> > >> > earlier:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Using the vss2json.py tool
> > >> > <https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification/blob
> > >> /develop/tools/vspec2json.py>
> > >>
> > >> > as
> > >> > a template
> > >> >
> > >> > We already have three conversion tools that directly convert VSS
> into
> > >> > different output formats in the GENIVI Github repository
> > >> > <https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification>. I would
> like
> > >> to
> > >> > add your tool to the repo but it would be very beneficial if it
> > >> followed
> > >> > the same template as the other tools. These tools directly read
> the
> > >> VSS
> > >> > files. It's easy since the core of it is a converter that reads
> VSS
> > >> YAML
> > >> > hierarchy into a JSON structure. All you have to do is
> > >> >
> > >> > import vspec
> > >> >
> > >> > tree = vspec.load(<vspec_file>, <include_dirs>)
> > >> >
> > >> > tree then contains the JSON tree structure alleviating you from
> > >> reading the
> > >> > JSON file and omitting the vspec2json step. The vspec2json.py
> > >> converter
> > >> > also contains the code to create the signal ID database.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. Splitting up the signal names into individual nodes
> > >> >
> > >> > Your tool is currently splitting up the signal names and places
> the
> > >> > individual nodes each into their own column in the csv file. I
> have
> > >> been
> > >> > thinking about it. The biggest problem is that the tree is not
> limited
> > >> in
> > >> > depth. There  can be any depth and you don't know how many
> columns are
> > >> > needed. The second problem is that you cannot easily look up a
> signal
> > >> by
> > >> > its name because you have to search across columns. Maybe it's
> better
> > >> to
> > >> > just put the signal name in its entirety into a single column?
> The csv
> > >> file
> > >> > structure would then be:
> > >> >
> > >> > [Signal] ,[ID], [Type], [Unit], [Min], [Max], [Description]
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Others, please weigh in here too.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Rudi
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Shinjiro Urata <
> > >> > shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Rudi-san,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for the suggestion.
> > >> > > Hirabayashi-san gave me similar comment.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Attahced is the format modified version (and omitted repetitive
> part
> > >> such
> > >> > > as seat/door's Row2,3,..etc.).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks and regards,
> > >> > > Shinjiro Urata
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2016-09-08 3:22 GMT+09:00 Streif, Rudolf <rstreif@
> jaguarlandrover.
> > >> com>:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Thank you, Urata-san.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> We would probably want to output the expanded fields of the
> leaf
> > >> nodes in
> > >> > >> the form of:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ DriverPostiion ], ...
> > >> > >> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ Row1PosCount ], ...
> > >> > >> [ Attribute ], [ Cabin ], [ Seat ], [ Row2PosCount ], ...
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> otherwise we will have this sparsely populated spreadsheet.
> > >> Furthermore,
> > >> > >> with the current format the order of the lines in the file is
> > >> essential
> > >> > >> otherwise the hierarchy is lost. Which means the file/
> spreadsheet
> > >> cannot be
> > >> > >> sorted.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> BTW, yes, the vehicle speed was missing which was a blunt
> oversight.
> > >>  It's
> > >> > >> fixed now:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Signal.Drivetrain.Transmission.Speed
> > >> > >> Signal.Cabin.Infotainment.Navigation.CurrentLocation.Speed
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Best regards,
> > >> > >> Rudi
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Shinjiro Urata <
> > >> > >> shinjiro.urata@access-company.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> Hirabayashi-san, Rudi-san
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> I tried conversion from vss_rel_1.json to csv with small
> script.
> > >> > >>> I don't know if this converted file fits to the needs.
> > >> > >>> Please have a look at attached file.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> >Hirabayashi-san
> > >> > >>> Since I omitted all other information except data point name,
> > >> > >>>  this may not very goot for cross check with older Vehicle
> Data
> > >> Spec.
> > >> > >>> In that case, by modifiying the script, it is possible to
> > >> > >>>  add more information such as datatype, min/max, etc.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >> > >>> Shinjiro Urata
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> 2016-09-07 10:30 GMT+09:00 <ta-hirabayashi@kddi-ri.jp>:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>> Rudi,
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thanks, I got it in Paris f2f meeting.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> We need list of all vehicle signals/data as soon as possible
> to
> > >> make
> > >> > >>>> sure
> > >> > >>>> overs and shorts comparing with the previous vehicle data
> specs.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Vocabulary (data naming) list would be helpful in excel or
> csv
> > >> format.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> T.Hirabayashi
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > >>>> > --
> > >> > >>>> > *Rudolf J Streif*
> > >> > >>>> > System Architect - Open Source Initiative
> > >> > >>>> > Open Source Technology Centre
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > *M:* +1.619.631.5383
> > >> > >>>> > *Email:*  rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > UK: G/26/2 G02 Building 523, Engineering Centre, Gaydon,
> > >> Warwick, CV35
> > >> > >>>> ORR
> > >> > >>>> > US: 1419 NW 14th Ave, Portland, OR 97209
> > >> > >>>> > jaguar.com | landrover.com
> > >> > >>>> > -------------------
> > >> > >>>> > Business Details:
> > >> > >>>> > Jaguar Land Rover Limited
> > >> > >>>> > Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry CV3 4LF
> > >> > >>>> > Registered in England No: 1672070
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> > >> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> > >>>> KDDI総研
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> 平林 立彦
> > >> > >>>> HIRABAYASHI Tatsuhiko
> > >> > >>>> Tel: 03-6678-1946(代表)
> > >> > >>>> Mobile: 080-5941-4506
> > >> > >>>> Fax: 03-6678-0339
> > >> > >>>> E-mail: ta-hirabayashi@kddi.com
> > >> > >>>> Address: 〒102‐8460
> > >> > >>>> 東京都千代田区飯田橋3-10-10
> > >> > >>>> ガーデンエアタワー33階
> > >> > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> .
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> *Rudolf J Streif*
> > >> > >> System Architect - Open Source Initiative
> > >> > >> Open Source Technology Centre
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> *M:* +1.619.631.5383
> > >> > >> *Email:*  rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> UK: G/26/2 G02 Building 523, Engineering Centre, Gaydon,
> Warwick,
> > >> CV35 ORR
> > >> > >> US: 1419 NW 14th Ave, Portland, OR 97209
> > >> > >> jaguar.com | landrover.com
> > >> > >> -------------------
> > >> > >> Business Details:
> > >> > >> Jaguar Land Rover Limited
> > >> > >> Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry CV3 4LF
> > >> > >> Registered in England No: 1672070
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> This e-mail and any attachments contain confidential
> information
> > >> for a
> > >> > >> specific individual and purpose.  The information is private
> and
> > >> privileged
> > >> > >> and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it
> is
> > >> addressed.
> > >> > >> If you are not the intended recipient, please e-mail us
> immediately.
> > >>   We
> > >> > >> apologise for any inconvenience caused but you are hereby
> notified
> > >> that any
> > >> > >> disclosure, copying or distribution or the taking of any
> action in
> > >> reliance
> > >> > >> on the information contained herein is strictly prohibited.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> This e-mail does not constitute an order for goods or services
> > >> unless
> > >> > >> accompanied by an official purchase order.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > .
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > *Rudolf J Streif*
> > >> > System Architect - Open Source Initiative
> > >> > Open Source Technology Centre
> > >> >
> > >> > *M:* +1.619.631.5383
> > >> > *Email:*  rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > UK: G/26/2 G02 Building 523, Engineering Centre, Gaydon, Warwick,
> CV35
> > >> ORR
> > >> > US: 1419 NW 14th Ave, Portland, OR 97209
> > >> > jaguar.com | landrover.com
> > >> > -------------------
> > >> > Business Details:
> > >> > Jaguar Land Rover Limited
> > >> > Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry CV3 4LF
> > >> > Registered in England No: 1672070
> > >> >
> > >> > This e-mail and any attachments contain confidential information
> for a
> > >> > specific individual and purpose.  The information is private and
> > >> privileged
> > >> > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
> > >> addressed.
> > >> > If you are not the intended recipient, please e-mail us
> immediately.
> > >> We
> > >> > apologise for any inconvenience caused but you are hereby
> notified
> > >> that any
> > >> > disclosure, copying or distribution or the taking of any action
> in
> > >> reliance
> > >> > on the information contained herein is strictly prohibited.
> > >> >
> > >> > This e-mail does not constitute an order for goods or services
> unless
> > >> > accompanied by an official purchase order.
> > >> >
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >> KDDI総研
> > >>
> > >> 平林 立彦
> > >> HIRABAYASHI Tatsuhiko
> > >> Tel: 03-6678-1946(代表)
> > >> Mobile: 080-5941-4506
> > >> Fax: 03-6678-0339
> > >> E-mail: ta-hirabayashi@kddi.com
> > >> Address: 〒102‐8460
> > >> 東京都千代田区飯田橋3-10-10
> > >> ガーデンエアタワー33階
> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Rudolf J Streif*
> > System Architect - Open Source Initiative
> > Open Source Technology Centre
> >
> > *M:* +1.619.631.5383
> > *Email:*  rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com
> >
> >
> >
> > UK: G/26/2 G02 Building 523, Engineering Centre, Gaydon, Warwick, CV35
> ORR
> > US: 1419 NW 14th Ave, Portland, OR 97209
> > jaguar.com | landrover.com
> > -------------------
> > Business Details:
> > Jaguar Land Rover Limited
> > Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry CV3 4LF
> > Registered in England No: 1672070
> >
> > This e-mail and any attachments contain confidential information for a
> > specific individual and purpose.  The information is private and
> privileged
> > and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
> addressed.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, please e-mail us immediately.
> We
> > apologise for any inconvenience caused but you are hereby notified
> that any
> > disclosure, copying or distribution or the taking of any action in
> reliance
> > on the information contained herein is strictly prohibited.
> >
> > This e-mail does not constitute an order for goods or services unless
> > accompanied by an official purchase order.
> >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> KDDI総研
>
> 平林 立彦
> HIRABAYASHI Tatsuhiko
> Tel: 03-6678-1946(代表)
> Mobile: 080-5941-4506
> Fax: 03-6678-0339
> E-mail: ta-hirabayashi@kddi.com
> Address: 〒102‐8460
> 東京都千代田区飯田橋3-10-10
> ガーデンエアタワー33階
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>



-- 
*Rudolf J Streif*
System Architect - Open Source Initiative
Open Source Technology Centre

*M:* +1.619.631.5383
*Email:*  rstreif@jaguarlandrover.com



UK: G/26/2 G02 Building 523, Engineering Centre, Gaydon, Warwick, CV35 ORR
US: 1419 NW 14th Ave, Portland, OR 97209
jaguar.com | landrover.com
-------------------
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Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry CV3 4LF
Registered in England No: 1672070

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