- From: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>
- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:20:14 +0000
- To: Frank Berker <fb@ftb-esv.de>, "public-auto-wcag@w3.org" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <401F34A9-5A1E-4FC8-8DFB-E7360E17BC31@illinois.edu>
Frank,
The OpenAjax evaluation library rules do not specifically differentiate between HTML5 and HTML4 techniques for satisfying the requirements of a particular rule, the applicable native semantics of HTML/CSS or ARIA can be used to meet the requirements of a rule.
Some rules require the use of ARIA for example “Landmark 1 - main landmark: at least one” or “Landmark 2 - All content must be contained in landmarks". These rules are required in the ARIA+HTM5 ruleset and are not included in the HTML4 ruleset since the HTML4 ruleset does not require the use of ARIA.
If you review the comparison of the two rulesets you can see that the “applicable” ARIA rules are considered a recommendation in the HTML4 ruleset. So if you start using ARIA those rules will be applied even in the HTML4 ruleset. It is just the required ARIA rules that are not included in the HTML4 ruleset.
https://fae.disability.illinois.edu/rulesets/
Jon
From: Frank Berker <fb@ftb-esv.de<mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de>>
Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 8:46 AM
To: "public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>>, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>
Subject: Re: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: Agenda for 9 July 2016 Auto-WCAG rule development call
Hi Jon,
in the rules we check for SC Failures as well as Passes based on the recommended techniques. The ARIA- and HTML5-specs are considered. The best example may be the use of the Text Alternative Computation Algorithm<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_community_auto-2Dwcag_wiki_Text-5FAlternative-5FComputation&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=SMLEqWFBKE85r8ZMOjmla7oyK_vTi_IaeHZwTB5AeMQ&s=huW7IBu_4cPhmnC2V0u8-SHu8uNq4kN0MpTWeol3l5o&e=> in most test cases of SC 1.1.1.
As for as I know, ee did not explicitly distinguish between legacy HTML and HTML5 as the OAA-rules do.
Besides, I really like the outcomes of the OpenAjax-Alliance. I haven't watched it for a couple of month and it's really matured.
Best regards
Frank
Am 31.05.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Gunderson, Jon R:
Frank,
Are the rules just about representing WCAG SC Failures (basically you did something wrong)?
What about the design patterns in ARIA 1.1 and HTML5?
ARIA 1.1 and HTML5 design patterns are what the OAA Rules are based on:
https://fae.disability.illinois.edu/rulesets/
Jon
From: Frank Berker <<mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de>fb@ftb-esv.de<mailto:fb@ftb-esv.de>>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2016 at 6:26 AM
To: "<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>" <public-auto-wcag@w3.org<mailto:public-auto-wcag@w3.org>>
Subject: Agenda for 9 July 2016 Auto-WCAG rule development call
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Resent-Date: Monday, May 30, 2016 at 6:27 AM
Hi everyone,
as you may have heard, we set up an additional call focusing on rule design.
And you may also have heard, that the rules went to GitHub. The repo is at MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be https://github.com/auto-wcag/auto-wcag<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_auto-2Dwcag_auto-2Dwcag&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=srvSo-ayMIof8vcqg1yjQtIvWSIG8r-4HiL3l_Khgpk&e=>.
To contribute to the rules, you have to use pull-requests on that repo. The documentation for doing that can be found here: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__help.github.com_articles_using-2Dpull-2Drequests_&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=7EZpu2UGNpdTVfm9OTjfX2hgiT5mQocr47vzZf9z0HE&e=> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__help.github.com_articles_using-2Dpull-2Drequests_&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=7EZpu2UGNpdTVfm9OTjfX2hgiT5mQocr47vzZf9z0HE&e=>https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__help.github.com_articles_using-2Dpull-2Drequests_&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=SMLEqWFBKE85r8ZMOjmla7oyK_vTi_IaeHZwTB5AeMQ&s=FzFVAKes17q8LtqkA9qe-UA0lCOuVWsk8_m7Bk6D-AU&e=>
The call will be monthly and we will start on Thursday, the 9th of July at 14:00 UTC - MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be http://timeanddate.com/s/307b<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeanddate.com_s_307b&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=ZGNtNEmohQ6EeHuVFAC1HKbX1rYTCD-KW-9cc6CbDS0&e=>
Please note: We have switched back to Skype. To join the meeting, notify us on our IRC channel and I will add you to the Skype call. The IRC channel is: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#auto-wcag
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Agenda
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1) Action Items: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_community_auto-2Dwcag_wiki_Action-5Fitems&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=F3XNF86oBpsRdiSEEvzoDXfWSoc6lcEhtrbqzXm07tw&e=>
2) Review SC1-4-1-a: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "urldefense.proofpoint.com" claiming to be https://github.com/auto-wcag/auto-wcag/issues/3<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_auto-2Dwcag_auto-2Dwcag_issues_3&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=1Wbkb59XxOUAjziYj2bm6Wdz4Cy2DXhPh7hdWB2ER6U&s=L8APvrA394UYXh9TerLyhC69NruiLGjb2oMQaaOv6cI&e=>
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5) General: Discussion on review workflow
6) General: Discussion on rules format (templates, links, algorithms)
7) Final thoughts
Kind regards
Frank
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