First draft of lang and screen reaer comatibility test (Voiceover on OSX and iOS to follow, probably later today)

Hey guys

Attached are my observations of xml:lang vs. lang attributes in documents.
I can easily add html to the Excel and then export as a valid html table,
this is actually how I often construct tables.
I would be happy to do this once Voiceover testing is added.


I used Annika's documents as basis but for the first round of tests I delete
the lang attribute and only use xml:lang="de"
For the second round (having differing lang and xml:lang definitions) I set
xml:lang="de" and lang="en"

Results:
Jaws and NVDA both ignore the xml:lang definition altogether.
It does not matter whether we use xml 1.0 transitional or html5 doctypes
(not with screen readers tested).

Interesting observations:
Both Jaws and NVDA use default language when announcing the title of
document when user switches into it from another window regardless of lang
setting.
In Firefox, Jaws announces the title attribute in its default language,
ignoring the language setting of the document.
In IE this is not the case.
NVDA cannot be tested the same way because it does not included the page
title in the virtual buffer document.
My colleague will help me test these things with Voiceover.
I am wrapping up a big contract for my employer, pulled 60+ hours last week
and I am already in the 35+ range for this one, so I will not contribute
much work to my action items today.
The project will be done early next week, if not this Friday, so I expect to
be only week late with my deliverables.
I will be at the meeting though.


-----Original Message-----
From: Wilco Fiers [mailto:w.fiers@accessibility.nl] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:32 AM
To: John Hicks
Cc: jesse.r.beach@gmail.com; public-auto-wcag@w3.org
Subject: RE: Agenda for 16 October 2014 auto-WCAG call

Hi John,
Have fun in Paris! Thanks for the update. Looking forward to hear what
you've come up with for keyboard accessibility! That one is quite a
challenge indeed.

Wilco


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Van: John Hicks [jwjhix@gmail.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 16 oktober 2014 14:29
Aan: Wilco Fiers
CC: jesse.r.beach@gmail.com; public-auto-wcag@w3.org
Onderwerp: Re: Agenda for 16 October 2014 auto-WCAG call

Good day all
Live from #parisweb,  good talks this morning from Karl Groves, Bruce
Lawson,  Élie Sloim and others.
For this reason I will again be absent from the call today.

By next week's call I will have made a draft for SC keyboard navigation,
unless someone else has already claimed that one.

I realise it is not easily automatisable but I have been thinking about a
few ideas

Best wishes for the meeting

John

Le 15 oct. 2014 14:00, "Wilco Fiers"
<w.fiers@accessibility.nl<mailto:w.fiers@accessibility.nl>> a écrit :
Hello everyone!

Tomorrow 16th of October we will have another auto-wcag meeting. Join us on
our IRC channel from 16:00 until 17:00 CET. Once there, I will ask for your
Skype name so you can join the conversation.

The IRC channel is:
irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#auto-wcag<http://irc.w3.org:6665/#auto-wcag>
If you do not have an IRC client you can use: http://irc.w3.org Add me on
Skype: wilco_fiers

Agenda
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1) Action items: https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items
2) Review SC3-1-1-xml-lang
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/index.php?title=SC3-1-1-xml-lang
&action=history
3) Review SC3-1-2-xml-lang
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/SC3-1-2-xml-lang
4) Review SC2-4-2-titles-across-pages
https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/SC2-4-2-titles-across-pages
5) Brainstorm auto-wcag communication
5) Final comments

Kind regards,


Wilco Fiers
Accessibility Foundation