Re: Agenda for 9 October 2014 auto-WCAG call

Hello all
... yet again absent, we have an application launch for a client today
am still following along

best wishes for the meeting,

John


On 8 October 2014 17:21, Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>
wrote:

> Hi Katie
>
> All excellent comments, thanks.
> I would be happy to make the changes you proposed (I did the original 2.4.2
> work), but let's discuss tomorrow to have a group consensus.
> I think the feedback is excellent.
> Thanks
> -Birkir
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL [mailto:ryladog@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: 'Wilco Fiers'; public-auto-wcag@w3.org
> Cc: ryladog@gmail.com; Katie.Haritos-Shea@Chase.com
> Subject: RE: Agenda for 9 October 2014 auto-WCAG call
>
> Hi Wilco,
>
> Couple of thoughts on 2.4.2 tests.......
>
> ----------------
> SC2-4-2-title
> ----------------
>
> Quick suggestions for the manual check/prompt for SC2-4-2-title
> (https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/SC2-4-2-title )
>
> Step 4
> Template:Manual
>
> "Look at the content of the page. Does the title describe the content of
> the
> web page? "
>
> KHS: Suggest using more generic word 'Check' over 'Look'. Partially, in
> case
> the person using the tool cannot see, and partially because it make more
> sense for a test tool.
>
> An additional manual check, of course, is to check the text in the browser
> tab, for that page. This information could be included in the original
> check......
>
> "Check the content of the page. Does the title, displayed in the browser
> bar/tab, describe the content of the web page? "
>
> It goes without saying that the text that is shown on the tab is the same
> text that is in the title element of the page head.
>
> A question I have, are we including mobile tests?  Because if we are then
> what I suggest for the tab will not work, as in a mobile environment tabs
> are not generally visible, but are read out by mobile screen readers. So if
> the answer to the mobile question is yes, then I will have to rephrase the
> wording to.....
>
> "Check the content of the page. Does the title (often displayed in the
> browser bar/tab), describe the content of the web page?"
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> SC2-4-2-titles-across-pages
> ---------------------------------
>
> I am sure that the 50% measure was discussed in the group, trying to
> address
> web applications such as email, but still that seems too high in my mind. I
> also think a manual prompt needs to be included for this test.
>
> My suggestion would be to lower the threshold to 10%, and then add this
> manual check.
> My suggestion for an manual check after the first automated one FAILED
> would
> be a prompt that says:
>
> "Check the repeated non-unique title instances. Are the repeated page
> titles
> are due to a limitation of a web application functional units (i.e., email
> inbox, email drafts, search results, and <need other examples here>)?"
>
> If yes, do not fail.
>
> If no, fail.
>
> I agree that this is not a perfect suggestion - mbut I am hoping to spark
> some additional comment on this one.......:-)
>
> * katie *
>
> Katie Haritos-Shea
> Senior Accessibility SME (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)
>
> Cell: 703-371-5545 | ryladog@gmail.com | Oakton, VA | LinkedIn Profile |
> Office: 703-371-5545
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilco Fiers [mailto:w.fiers@accessibility.nl]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:52 AM
> To: public-auto-wcag@w3.org
> Subject: Agenda for 9 October 2014 auto-WCAG call
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> Tomorrow 9th of October we will have another auto-wcag meeting. Join us on
> our IRC channel from 16:00 until 17:00 CET. Once there, I will ask for your
> Skype name so you can join the conversation.
>
> The IRC channel is: irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#auto-wcag If you do not have an
> IRC client you can use: http://irc.w3.org Add me on Skype: wilco_fiers
>
> Agenda
> ------
> 1) Action items: https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Action_items
> 2) Finalizing SC 3.1.1
> https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/3.1.1_Language_of_Page
> 3) Finalizing SC 3.1.2
> https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/3.1.2_Language_of_Parts
> 3) Review 2.4.2 Page Titled
> https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/2.4.2_Page_Titled
> 4) Brainstorm auto-wcag communication
> 5) Final comments
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Wilco Fiers
> Accessibility Foundation
>
>
>
>
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