Re: W3C TPAC2012 - Will your group meet in Lyon, France WBS

I'm happy to take this to W3C management - just need to know who to take it
up with.  Doug?

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:

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> Le 20/03/2012 18:21, Chris Wilson a écrit :
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>  Indeed, scheduling a large meeting of any kind is a challenge.  However,
>> this is two years in a row that the TPAC has been scheduled over Halloween
>> - last fall I simply skipped the first day of TPAC in order to take my
>> daughters trick-or-treating, and took a very early flight in on Tuesday
>> morning. That's not an option this year (Halloween is Wednesday, and the
>> travel itself will take the better part of a day).
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>> My problem with the W3C's scheduling is that this is a well-known family
>> occasion - perhaps particularly so in the US - and there really are not
>> that many such holidays to avoid during the year (Christmas, New Year's,
>> Thanksgiving).
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> Seriouslly, you should report this to the W3C management. Because if
> people do not raise the issue it will keep on going.
> And I agree that it is annoying.
> We also miss every year the 01 Nov / 11 Nov  for TPAC. And 01 May and 08
> may and sometime the ability to vote for our french president election ...
> du to TPAC/AC meetings ...
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> Thierry.
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>  It is disappointing, since (obviously) I find the TPAC of
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>> great value, but I figure I will get approximately five more Halloweens
>> with my oldest daughter before she won't have anything to do with
>> trick-or-treating with me.  :)
>>
>> But then, I already ranted on
>> this<https://plus.google.com/**u/0/106422711035746240826/**
>> posts/FJVZimkxnrJ<https://plus.google.com/u/0/106422711035746240826/posts/FJVZimkxnrJ>
>> >,
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>> so I'll stop now.  I replied to the survey as best I could - the options
>> presented did not let me directly express "I will not attend the TPAC, but
>> would like another FTF elsewhere/when", but that's my preference.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Thierry MICHEL<tmichel@w3.org>  wrote:
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>>  Chris,
>>> It is difficult to consider  all the different vacation throughout the
>>> world in order to setup such large meeting as TPAC.
>>> In fact the TPAC is also set during a European (worldwide ?) holiday on
>>> Nov 01 (Toussaint) as every year.
>>>
>>> Thierry.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 19/03/2012 20:18, Chris Wilson a écrit :
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>>>  Just a data point - I've already stated I will not attend the TPAC, due
>>>> to
>>>> it being scheduled (again) over the family-oriented holiday of
>>>> Halloween.
>>>>  (i.e., it is impossible to attend any significant portion of the TPAC
>>>> in
>>>> France and not miss seeing my kids dressed up for Halloween.)  I'd
>>>> prefer
>>>> a
>>>> different FTF venue.
>>>>
>>>> -Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Thierry MICHEL<tmichel@w3.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  We should discuss if the audio WG will meet in Lyon.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Message original --------
>>>>> Sujet: W3C TPAC2012 - Will your group meet in Lyon, France WBS
>>>>> Date de renvoi : Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:30:31 +0000
>>>>> De (renvoi) : chairs@w3.org
>>>>> Date : Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:29:50 +0100
>>>>> De : Alexandra Lavirotte<alex@w3.org>
>>>>> Organisation : W3C
>>>>> Pour : Chairs<chairs@w3.org>, "ab@w3.org"<ab@w3.org>, tag@w3.org, "
>>>>> w3t@w3.org"<w3t@w3.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Group Chairs, Advisory Board and TAG Members,
>>>>>
>>>>> As we announced last September [1], TPAC2012 will be held in Lyon,
>>>>> France at the Cité Centre de Congrès de Lyon from 29 October through 2
>>>>> November 2012.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/******Member/chairs/2011JulSep/****<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/****Member/chairs/2011JulSep/**>
>>>>> 0120.**html<https://lists.w3.**org/Archives/**Member/chairs/**
>>>>> 2011JulSep/0120.**html<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/**Member/chairs/2011JulSep/0120.**html>
>>>>> >
>>>>> <https://lists.w3.**org/**Archives/Member/chairs/****
>>>>> 2011JulSep/0120.html<https://**lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/**
>>>>> chairs/2011JulSep/0120.html<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2011JulSep/0120.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are asking Group Chairs to start discussions to determine whether
>>>>> and
>>>>> when your
>>>>> group would like to meet during this week.
>>>>> Please complete the wbs questionnaire [2] by 30 April 2012. If you
>>>>> chair
>>>>> more than one group, you will need to appoint an alternate to complete
>>>>> the questionnaire for the other group to avoid overwriting your replies
>>>>> for the first group.
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/******wbs/34786/ChairsTPAC2012/<https://www.w3.org/2002/09/****wbs/34786/ChairsTPAC2012/>
>>>>> <htt**ps://www.w3.org/2002/09/**wbs/**34786/ChairsTPAC2012/<https://www.w3.org/2002/09/**wbs/34786/ChairsTPAC2012/>
>>>>> >
>>>>> <http**s://www.w3.org/2002/09/**wbs/**34786/ChairsTPAC2012/<http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/**34786/ChairsTPAC2012/>
>>>>> <ht**tps://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/**34786/ChairsTPAC2012/<https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34786/ChairsTPAC2012/>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Schedule for the week:
>>>>>        Group Meetings: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday
>>>>>        Plenary Day: Wednesday
>>>>>        AC Sessions: Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday Plenary and Thursday
>>>>> morning
>>>>>
>>>>> There will be a registration fee of 45 EUR per day to defray a portion
>>>>> of the meeting costs.
>>>>> Please refer to the Meeting Overview page [3] for additional details.
>>>>>
>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/10/******TPAC/Overview.html<http://www.w3.org/2012/10/****TPAC/Overview.html>
>>>>> <http://www.**w3.org/2012/10/**TPAC/**Overview.html<http://www.w3.org/2012/10/**TPAC/Overview.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>> <http://www.**w3.org/2012/10/**TPAC/Overview.**html<http://w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.**html>
>>>>> <http://**www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/**Overview.html<http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/Overview.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We look forward to another successful meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Alexandra.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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