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Re: Hi, welcome to join the Art & Culture (Museums) On The Web Community Group!

From: Bruno P. Kinoshita <kinow@apache.org>
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 07:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
To: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Angel Li <angel@w3.org>, "public-art@w3.org" <public-art@w3.org>
Cc: "dnewbury@getty.edu" <dnewbury@getty.edu>, Rich Fagen <rfagen@getty.edu>
Message-ID: <645235605.909365.1512719940421@mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Robert/all,

I am involved with Apache Software Foundation, which has Apache Commons Imaging, Apache Jena, Apache OpenNLP, Apache Tika, and other projects that are in one way or another related to IIIF. I work for a Crown Research Institute (CRI) in New Zealand. Even though we have many images in archival databases, no IIIF service yet. So far I have not seen any public use case in NZ, though I believe Auckland Museum had a project with IIIF.

I gave an introduction talk some months ago, and another developer from a local university said he had a project with Mirador, and was interested in learning more about IIIF. So my involvement with this group is mainly to educate myself more, perhaps meeting others from NZ or Australia, and possibly have fun putting some of what I learned in practice in ASF projects, or other OSS projects like Cantaloupe.

I will try to reach people from the local museums, and perhaps DigitalNZ where I know a fellow developer (which I will BCC to this e-mail).

>1)       where should we carry on the discussion, github, wiki, mailing list?

+1 for mailing lists. This is the official communication media for many ASF projects, and you can make announcements and group decisions there, and hold short conversations in slack/irc/hangouts/etc. With the advantage of being easy to archive and search.

>2)       Would you like to have regular/irregular teleconfs?

Nowadays I follow the Cantaloupe project more than the IIIF slack channels. Even though there are many interesting discussions there, the calls all happen mainly in US time. Which makes it quite hard for us here in Oceania (and maybe some in Asia too?) to join calls before 7AM sometimes. regular/irregular teleconfs would be fine, and I enjoy listening what others think about it. But if possible, an Europe/UTC time between morning and beginning of afternoon might work for western & eastern countries?

I normally lurk in discussions in W3C, Apache Software Foundation, OGC, but whenever there's something I can help with or some code in GitHub/GitLab, I'm more than happy to join and try to help (: So will keep an eye on the e-mails and meetings/calls announcements.


From: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
To: Angel Li <angel@w3.org>; public-art@w3.org 
Cc: dnewbury@getty.edu; Rich Fagen <rfagen@getty.edu>
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2017 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hi, welcome to join the Art & Culture (Museums) On The Web  Community Group!

Dear all,

Now that we have a reasonable number of participants in the group (43 at the current time), I'd like to provide an introduction and the view of the Getty Trust on the questions that Angel has prompted us all with.  

I'm Robert Sanderson, Semantic Architect for the J Paul Getty Trust -- the organization that oversees the Getty Museum and other CH programs in Los Angeles, California.  My role is primarily around the engagement with standards, and their adoption within the organization to ensure that our digital infrastructure is capable of providing usable and valuable content, in forms that work effectively for the art and cultural heritage community.  I have been a long time participant in standardization efforts, including with the Library of Congress, ANSI/NISO, IETF, IIIF, and (of course) the W3C.  I was co-chair of the Web Annotation working group, and am co-chair of the Open Annotation and JSON for Linking Data community groups.  My interests are focused on the technical specifications side and ensuring that they can fulfill the many and varied use cases in our sector.

To the questions:
1)       where should we carry on the discussion, github, wiki, mailing list?

In my experience, the mailing list is great for exploratory discussions and generating a shared understanding of the scope and intents of our efforts.  Once we have more specific outcomes in mind, and issues that we need to keep track of, then the organizational capabilities of github have been invaluable.

2)       Would you like to have regular/irregular teleconfs?

I think that calls would be useful for getting things started, and that monthly would be appropriate interval at this stage.

3)       Next steps for the tech work, related W3C activities review, call for use cases/requirements, gap analysis, technical idea proposals, etc

Identifying areas where web standards would be beneficial, and are either lacking or in need of additional supporting best practices to be appropriate for the domain.  

In particular, areas in which we are attempting to make progress include:
  * the connected and coherent description of artworks and their provenance, using Linked Data (e.g. linked.art) and JSON-LD
  * the provision of images of art, and in the future time-based media, using non-W3C specifications from the IIIF community ; the IIIF work fills a need that we cannot provide via W3C solutions alone and alignment would be highly beneficial
  * the engagement of the user with the content, via Annotations and other social media
  * the decentralized and transferrable management of the identities for artworks and the people, places, concepts and timeframes that surround them
  * the discovery of the above resources, in a fair and participatory playing field

4)       Group promotion for broader global participation?

Yes :)  At TPAC, one idea was to hold a W3C workshop to bring together the various domain stakeholders and technical experts for a discussion around use cases and areas of need, following the patterns established for position papers and broad inclusivity.  I think this would be a great way to generate enthusiasm and move discussions forwards.

5)       A chair or co-chairs for this group?

I think that co-chairs are useful, particularly once we've established the direction and can select people who are have the appropriate interests, skills and institutional mandate to spend the time.  I'm happy to help take the lead in ensuring we make progress in technical areas, should we go in those directions.
(Or ... "I volunteer as tribute.")

Many thanks all, and I look forwards to others joining in with their intros and ideas!


P.S. Yes, the Getty (being both its collections and its community) is safe from the fire raging near by in Los Angeles!

Some links from the above:

IIIF:  http://iiif.io/
Web Annotation: https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/
Open Annotation: https://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/
JSON-LD:   https://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/ 
Linked Art: https://linked.art/
Workshops: https://www.w3.org/2003/08/Workshops/ 

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Angel Li <angel@w3.org> wrote:

Dear Art & Culture (Museums) On The Web Community Group participants, 
>Someone need to take care of the art and cultural heritage/content on the Web for human society, right? 
>And thank you for joining this effort! 
>My name is Anqi Li, Manager of W3C China Host. Please allow me to provide some brief background for this initiative. 
>The Spring W3C Advisory Committee Meeting was held in Beijing in April this year. Part of the Chinese Web community who usually don’t travel much for the W3C events in other parts of the world got the opportunity to watch W3C activities closely via a series of co-events W3C organized. One important feedback we heard from them about W3C and its work was a question, is W3C doing anything for a higher need, e.g. the art? The Web as the largest information distribution platform should make itself available and friendly for the art and cultural heritage of the entire humankind, more specifically the artifacts and other objects of artistic, cultural, historical, or scientific importance in the museums in the globe. And BTW, you do have the basic technologies that can support it. The thing is, what’s missing and what needs to be done? 
>That is a great point and question. I led a breakout session on this topic during TPAC early this month to collect input from W3C global community. The breakout session talked about the related Web technologies and did some initial some gap analysis. And consensus were reached that we should continue the conversation within a community group and a Wiki page [1] was set up recoding the progress.  
>So here we are today in this community group J
>To quote Robert, a group participant, participation in the group is a great opportunity to ensure that the web architectural design and infrastructure recognizes the and supports the value that our organizations collectively bring, and a venue for reaching out to non-CH organizations that share our values or can support our missions. 
>And I would appreciate your input for the next steps in this exploration.
>1)       where should we carry on the discussion, github, wiki, mailing list? 
>2)       Would you like to have regular/irregular teleconfs? 
>3)       Next steps for the tech work, related W3C activities review, call for use cases/requirements, gap analysis, technical idea proposals, etc
>4)       Group promotion for boarder global participation? 
>5)       A chair or co-chairs for this group?
>Look forward to hearing your comments and suggestions. 
>[1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Art% 26CultureOnTheWeb 
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>Anqi Li 
>Manager of W3C China Host & W3C Global Participation Lead
>Beihang University, No.37 Xueyuan Road, Haidian District, Beijing, China
>Phone: 86-10-82316341  Cell:86-13810176889 
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Rob Sanderson
Semantic Architect
The Getty Trust
Los Angeles, CA 90049
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