RE: ARIA: grid role - Accessibility | MDN

Got it thanks, can that be changed?

According to the ARIA spec, a grid is an interactive widget by itself no matter what it contains. As such, it should not be used simply to group associated interactive widgets.

I can't tell you how many headaches I've had in the past few years with people putting role=grid on everything because of stuff like this.




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From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2020 at 12:28 PM
To: ARIA <public-aria@w3.org>
Cc: Marco Zehe <mzehe@mozilla.com>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>
Subject: ARIA: grid role - Accessibility | MDN
Hi,
Yesterday I needed to do an internal presentation regarding the differences between role=grid and role=table, and this information from Mozilla was brought to my attention.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/Roles/Grid_Role

The part that is concerning to me is this:

"A grid widget contains one or more rows with one or more cells of thematically related interactive content. While it does not imply a specific visual presentation, it implies a relationship among elements. Use it for simple groupings like a collection of checkboxes or navigation links."

This seems very wrong to me, and will only exasurbate the proliferation of improper ARIA Grid constructs across the web. A simple grouping such as this should just be marked up as a simple table, not a grid.

Hopefully others here can weigh in with their thoughts.

Thanks,
Bryan


Bryan Garaventa
Principal Accessibility Architect
Level Access, Inc.
Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com<mailto:Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com>
415.624.2709 (o)
www.LevelAccess.com<http://www.levelaccess.com/>