Re: Agenda: ARIA WG Teleconference - Thursday April 30, 2020

Thanks again for one and half hour scribe work, Carolyn!

From: Carolyn MacLeod <Carolyn_MacLeod@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 1:49 PM
To: "nurthen@adobe.com" <nurthen@adobe.com>
Cc: "public-aria@w3.org" <public-aria@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Agenda: ARIA WG Teleconference - Thursday April 30, 2020
Resent-From: <public-aria@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 1:48 PM

Hi, all!

Here are the minutes from today's call:  https://www.w3.org/2020/04/30-aria-minutes.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_2020_04_30-2Daria-2Dminutes.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=ojcjDJL-jvddRNfWNxFiExzW6f4z_rnmeUzIiOAFJdM&e=>
Lots of good discussion about aria-hidden. :)

Car

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From: James Nurthen <nurthen@adobe.com>
To: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Agenda: ARIA WG Teleconference - Thursday April 30, 2020
Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2020 12:54 AM


ARIA Working Group Teleconference - 2020-04-30
Call Agenda

If you would like to add an item to the agenda please send a reply to this mail.
·         New Issue Triage<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_search-3Fl-3D-26q-3Dis-253Aopen-2Bis-253Aissue-2Brepo-253Aw3c-252Faria-2Bcreated-253A-253E-253D2020-2D04-2D23-2Brepo-253Aw3c-252Faria-2Brepo-253Aw3c-252Faccname-2Brepo-253Aw3c-252Fcore-2Daam-26type-3DIssues&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=Qp4L3RmuuGFHLpFx_5KwhmyGSX9gF5_hmcBxjJpaGzw&e=>
·         Survey for additional meeting time<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_2002_09_wbs_83726_meetingTimes_&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=A3ZWyYASuh7IqAxHX9SV98xxDy9wi02rxkQCPbGEgwQ&e=>
·         Deprecate Global attributed instead of removing #1164 – James
o    hopefully will be merged before the meeting
·         Account for aria-owns - Jon
o    https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1224<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_aria_pull_1224&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=bCSU9M5Y_nokN84bY-eE-I5Fi_7MM9zJWIGP6qEc8lw&e=> - waiting on reviews from James N, James C, Matt
·         Unclear use of descendent<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_aria_issues_1150&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=4klHdygjf6k9yiebolK37abvuBWxVPadPNYEjt-6tGc&e=> – James
·         IDL Issues
o    AriaAttributes cannot be nullable<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_aria_issues_1058&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=y6wwzok964JBobMtXA39XSMS3fzX8pBefJgwOf1Liyk&e=>
o    Undefined behavior for Element and FrozenArray<Element> reflecting IDL attributes<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_aria_issues_978&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=ht4qayXFazYNXAN39R10BNNm2Ag8DWl_wvPtQS5_jBI&e=>
o    Remove the string reflection properties that will be replaced by incompatible element reflection properties<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_aria_issues_834&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=Y8R2h3UEx248eYRhtLC05yKSir_THYCjCSn_xqrlOcg&e=>
·         In-Depth topic if we have time: aria-hidden-pocalypse
o    All of the ways aria-hidden is misunderstood and misused, and what can be done about it?
- People using aria-hidden=false, thinking it gets undone
- aria-hidden on the <html> or <body>
- aria-hidden on content that is visible and tabbable, or aria-hidden on something that actually gets focused


Previous Meeting Minutes

https://www.w3.org/2020/04/23-aria-minutes.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_2020_04_23-2Daria-2Dminutes.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=rFUXx2e9esgOU_SQf_woJw&m=lILYhq9IA44Cb47AAAf9zfADWHBkpuDOlx63SvB0cJE&s=3aumP1a-ZpBVcGy8lQwB_FQbSZiSDVUv5-fglk0ATCs&e=>

Logistics

San Francisco (U.S.A. - California)
Thursday, April 30, 10:00 AM PDT
Boston (U.S.A. - Massachusetts)
Thursday, April 30, 1:00 PM EDT
London (United Kingdom - England)
Thursday, April 30, 6:00 PM GMT+1
Paris (France)
Thursday, April 30, 7:00 PM GMT+2
Tokyo (Japan)
Friday, May 1, 2:00 AM GMT+9
Corresponding UTC (GMT)
Thursday, April 30, 5:00 PM UTC

Duration: 1 hour

Chair: JamesNurthen

Scribe:

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