RE: AccName exclusion of groups and menus from content when calculating treeitem and menuitem names

Hi Matt,
I'm including the ARIA WG on this thread as well since it's important for AccName understanding in general.

As a quick answer, yes this is accounted for in the prototype, but no this isn't documented anywhere in the spec as yet.

This is however included within the draft outline I sent through some weeks back, which is meant to account for these types of exclusions and subtree logic when parsing child node structures. The outline is important because it includes concepts and additions that don't appear as spec text as yet, yet does reflect decisions we have already agreed to when these were previously discussed.

I need to get some help to setup a wiki page on the AccName repo where I can post this outline and then it will be easier to refer people to this instead.

Since it's the end of the quarter, my time is limited at the moment, but I'll be able to dedicate more time to getting this organized soon I hope.

All the best,
Bryan




Bryan Garaventa
Principal Accessibility Architect
Level Access, Inc.
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From: Matthew King <mck@fb.com>
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To: Aaron Leventhal (aleventhal@google.com) <aleventhal@google.com>; Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>
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Subject: AccName exclusion of groups and menus from content when calculating treeitem and menuitem names

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Aaron,

I learned from you that accname is supposed to ignore descendant groups, and I think menus, when calculating the name of a treeitem or menuitem from content. However, Simon has been looking for where this is documented (he is helping me develop a new APG section on naming and describing).

For example, it is my understanding that when calculating the name of the parent tree item in the following, the group is ignored and the name is "Fruits":

<ul role="tree">
  <li role="treeitem">Fruits
    <ul role="group">
      <li role="treeitem">Apples</li>
      <li role="treeitem">Bananas</li>
      <li role="treeitem">Oranges</li>
    </ul>
  </li>
</ul>

Similarly, I also have been under the impression that when calculating the name of the following parent menuitem from content, the submenu items are supposed to be ignored to also come up with a name of "Fruits":

<ul role="menu">
  <li role="menuitem">Fruits
    <ul role="menu">
      <li role="menuitem">Apples</li>
      <li role="menuitem">Bananas</li>
      <li role="menuitem">Oranges</li>
    </ul>
  </li>
</ul>

Bryan, do you account for this in your implementation of the algorithm? Do you know where it is documented? If it is not, should I raise an issue against accname?

Thanks,
Matt