Re: REVIEW REQUEST, AGENDA: aria-label-braille and aria-roledescription-braille

Thanks for the comments! I've responded on the github issue.

Best,
Peter.

Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 21:44 Uhr schrieb Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com
>:

> Mind adding those suggestions to the github pull requests? Thanks!
> --joanie
>
> On 4/3/19 3:36 PM, Gunderson, Jon R wrote:
> > Maybe the attributes could be:
> >
> > aria-braillelabel
> > aria-brailleroledescription
> >
> > These are also less like to get confused with using:
> > aria-label
> > aria-roledescription
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:54 PM
> > To: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
> > Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; Peter Krautzberger <
> peter@krautzource.com>
> > Subject: Re: REVIEW REQUEST, AGENDA: aria-label-braille and
> aria-roledescription-braille
> >
> > Hey John.
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. Point taken about the double-hyphens. Would you
> please add that to the github issue so that we have all the feedback in one
> place for tomorrow's meeting?
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 4/3/19 2:23 PM, John Foliot wrote:
> >> Hi Joanie, ARIA WG,
> >>
> >> As a lurker in this group, I have a small concern about introducing a
> >> new "pattern" into the aria lexicon - specifically "double-hyphenated"
> >> attributes (i.e. aria-label-braille and aria-roledescription-braille).
> >> A quick check of the existing ARIA attributes
> >> <https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#state_prop_def>, and this will be
> >> the first time that this WG would be introducing that pattern, and so
> >> more than anything else - why?
> >>
> >> Previously, even "multi-name" attributes have all been concatenated
> >> into one string (ref: Position In Set = aria-posinset
> >> <https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#aria-posinset>), and I would
> >> strongly encourage the ARIA WG to maintain that pattern
> >> (aria-labelbraille, aria-roledescriptionbraille) if these new
> >> attributes are to move forward.
> >>
> >> There is a dotted-line connection here to similar work in the
> >> Personalization TF, where we are developing some new (proposed)
> >> attributes, and I have pushed back somewhat on a similar pattern there.
> >> The back-story is that at the last TPAC, the Personalization TF met
> >> with WebPlat WG (as we'd *really* like to have fully-fledged "HTML5"
> >> attributes, rather than "specialty" attributes - i.e. coga-*), and we
> >> were cautioned to avoid anything that looked like a micro-syntax
> >> (which these two new aria attributes sorta look like). The
> >> Personalization TF is currently working with data-* (again based upon
> >> the recommendation of Web Plat), and specifically I've pushed back on
> >> proposed attributes such as data-purpose-symbol with (I hope) some
> >> success. As such, I personally believe that we should maintain some
> >> consistency across the various WAI activities here.
> >>
> >> At any rate, not a hill to die on, but if the WG could consider thisas
> >> some constructive feedback I'd appreciate it.
> >>
> >> JF
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:48 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com
> >> <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hey all.
> >>
> >>     Peter has provided pull requests for two proposed features:
> >>     aria-label-braille and aria-roledescription-braille. These items
> will be
> >>     the two "meaty" topics for Thursday's call. Therefore, it would be
> super
> >>     if everyone can give them a review prior to the call.
> >>
> >>     The pull requests can be found here:
> >>     * https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/923
> >>     * https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/924
> >>
> >>     Each pull request has a raw.githack.com <http://raw.githack.com>
> >>     link in a comment. I added these
> >>     because github's preview feature seems to be unreliable. Peter and I
> >>     will try to keep these links updated (i.e. in case he makes any
> changes
> >>     in response to your review comments).
> >>
> >>     Thanks in advance for your time and feedback!
> >>     --joanie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *​John Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC
> >> Representative Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good deque.com
> >> <http://deque.com/>
> >>
> >
> >
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