Regarding face to face timing in May

Hi,
As a quick follow-up, it looks like I have an event scheduled for May 5 that I can’t miss, so I won’t be available that week.


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From: Ali, Irfan [mailto:iali@ets.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:57 AM
To: public-aria@w3.org
Subject: Minutes from February 22

Minutes from the ARIA teleconference of 22 February are provided below as text. They're available as hypertext at:

https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html



22 Feb 2018
Attendees
Present
Joanmarie_Diggs, Irfan_Ali, Matt_King, Bryan_Garaventa, jongund
Regrets
Stefan_Schnabel, James_Nurthen
Chair
Joanmarie_Diggs
Scribe
Irfan
Contents

  *   Topics<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   Face-to-face in first or second week of May<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#item01>
     *   AccName: Test coverage and expected results<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#item02>
     *   AccName: What spec changes are needed, and when?<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#item03>
     *   AccName: Testable statements and testing<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#item04>
  *   Summary of Action Items<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<https://www.w3.org/2018/02/22-aria-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<joanie> agenda: this

<joanie> agenda: be done

MK: wont be there all the time in the meeting. if it takes long time to reponde on particular question.. pls have patience

Face-to-face in first or second week of May

Joanie: face to face meeting- looking at everyone schedule, we are looking for 3 days that we dont know. first priority is finding the week. 1st or 2nd

MK: 1st week please, later going to India in 2nd week
... planning to travel on mothers day weekend. will check back on time

Joanie: location will be Mozilla headquarters in toronto, Canada
... Dev cant be there in toronto. will be difficult for Jamie to fry from Australia

JG: n2d week of may is daughter's graduation

MK: either week will work but would prefer 1st week

Joanie: I can do either week

MC: okay for both week

Joanie: any other comments on this topic
... i will get in touch with Mozilla after this meeting.

AccName: Test coverage and expected results

<joanie> https://whatsock.github.io/w3c-alternative-text-computation/Autogenerated%20AccName%201.1%20Testable%20Statements%20-%20W3C/index.html


Joanie: I am going to post some link that will help to describe

: the work is in progress

: the link that I have there gives a list of all test cases.

for each of the test case, i'd like to see what Bryan test says

: there are some case where I am positive that our results are fine

<joanie> https://github.com/WhatSock/w3c-alternative-text-computation/issues/6


: there are other places where I have no idea and have to go through the algorithm

:hopefully something is there in algorithm to reset

Bryan: which version are you looking?

Joanie: I am looking at the link that Brayn has provided

Byan: just to kind of give you heads up, I am going through all the test cases to check the discrepancies

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AccName_1.1_Testable_Statements


<joanie> https://whatsock.github.io/w3c-alternative-text-computation/Autogenerated%20AccName%201.1%20Testable%20Statements%20-%20W3C/Name%20test%20case%20543.html


Joanie: Brayn fixed the issue

Bryan: I am still working on this

Joanie: would you be able to make all your changes within a week?

Bryan: When you have title and aria-decsribed by, aria decsribed-by take the precedence

Joanie: I am going to look at the algorithm and try to find out the issue and then Brayn can work on triage

Bryan: make sense

Joanie: right now its lot easier to work on one point of contact. to give it immidiate goal, we have take accname out of the door. they might be important for 1.2 and not 1.1

AccName: What spec changes are needed, and when?

Joanie: Thank you Mat for volunteering

MK: my plan is to work on it next tuesday and wednesday

Joanie: we have discrepancies because of some communication. we got take accName out of 1.1.
... thank you Bryan for all your help.

MK: I'd do the triage. If the goals is to take accName out of the door, then we need to discuss

Joanie: we need to talk about this issue.

MK: its not actually clear to me what the pass on criteria?
... this team is in one of those situation where the success criterion took two years

Joanie: we probably analyze the number

MK: Its imaginable that you can keep coming with more n more tasks. How do you classify the potential moving targets

MC: we should get into too much trouble to decide on tasks

MK: thats grest

Joanie: anything else?

AccName: Testable statements and testing

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AccName_1.1_Testable_Statements


Joanie: I ahve already talked about it. we need to potentially make some changes in Brayn tool. we need to test for accName. where are they exposing? I am on top of that. Thats my main focus. I have done some testing.

MK: I have done some testing and tried 3 different computers and browsers.

Joanie: It used to work but not any more.

MK: Last time I ran the test on my computer. I have got it installed locally in 3 different computer. never worked

Joanie: I dont have environment like MK but I will try to setup something if I can figure out something and will let you know if it works

: there is essentially one server. if you try to run it on w3c server, i may take long time

MC: have you checked your browser console. sometime, it can help to narrow it down and help you to understand where the problem is.
... i dont know how to use the test framework so cant provide you any support on this

MK: we can give H results if you want

Joanie: would love to have results

: that would be super awesome.

chrome canary results would be great if you could provide

MK: I can try that

Joanie: is in italy tomorrow

MC: I got the details in console

Joanie: anythign else on this topis or any other topic

Summary of Action Items



Irfan Ali
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