- From: Storr, Francis <francis.storr@intel.com>
- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 20:47:10 +0000
- To: "public-aria@w3.org" <public-aria@w3.org>
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Thanks for the replies. I like the disclosure pattern but was leaning towards the non-modal dialog as I still want to contain the tabbing to within it. I’ve seen screen reader users get disorientated when they’ve not realized they’ve tabbed out of a pop-up. It seems as though there’s still some work to do to iron out the non-modal design pattern (https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/102), so I’ll go with the disclosure pattern with the enhanced region. Francis From: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 21:41 To: 'James Nurthen' <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "francis.storr@intel.com" <francis.storr@intel.com>, "public-aria@w3.org" <public-aria@w3.org> Subject: RE: Need clarity on listbox, menu, dialog, or something else As James said, the menu and listbox patterns do not fit. I agree that you could use a dialog,but that is unnecessarily heavy. Only use the dialog if it will overlay on top of other stuff and contain the tab ring. I recommend the disclosure pattern. That is sort of what BBC did, but on the element that shows the panel, they didn’t give it role button. Other than that, they did a great job with it. The only other enhancement I would recommend in that particular case is wrapping it in a region when it is expanded. They did put a close button as the last element, which is a very nice touch. Matt From: James Nurthen [mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:22 PM To: Storr, Francis <francis.storr@intel.com>; public-aria@w3.org Subject: RE: Need clarity on listbox, menu, dialog, or something else IMO a dialog. It has more than 1 type of controls in it. Listboxes and menus can only have options or menuitems respectively. From: Storr, Francis [mailto:francis.storr@intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:29 AM To: public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org> Subject: Need clarity on listbox, menu, dialog, or something else Hi, all I’ve been going through the ARIA specs and am trying to work out how a particular pop-up widget should be marked up. An example can been seen on the BBC’s news page (for example: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-42970067/cheddar-man-dna-shows-early-brit-had-dark-skin<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bbc.com_news_av_uk-2D42970067_cheddar-2Dman-2Ddna-2Dshows-2Dearly-2Dbrit-2Dhad-2Ddark-2Dskin&d=DwMGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=CIHu8rc_0wRTTC_7DvWtiGNKjpA-3oTgbu_6ve6hP0I&m=e9Ykfv6c6zdOHa4FO7V9yDfy4hcJHErb3kUo1pvv3VI&s=8BuANy0u9mSZtsy_8AM5Ww6DAtfuOkrX3rN6iV4ggvY&e=>). Take a look at the Share link on the right of the page (assuming you’re on a desktop display). What could that pop-up panel be marked up as? Looking at ARIA 1.1, I feel it could be: 1. A listbox (“A widget that allows the user to select one or more items from a list of choices.”) 2. A menu (“A menu is often a list of common actions or functions that the user can invoke.”) although this feels weaker as it’s not “presented in a manner similar to a menu on a desktop application”. 3. A non-modal dialog (“A dialog is a window overlayed on either the primary window or another dialog window.”) Any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks — Francis Storr, Intel
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