RE: AccName question about multiple description edge case

“The trick is redundancy... can the user agents recognize identical strings of information and not pass that through”

If this is dealt with in the spec, I’m sure this can be done, since it is already happening in some browsers when the description and name properties match, so description is suppressed so that only name is set. Technically this is possible, it just needs to be dealt with in the algorithm.

Bryan Garaventa
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From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:21 AM
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Cc: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>; ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
Subject: Re: AccName question about multiple description edge case

I think it should be flagged as a computation issue ... I see a lot of problems in the trenches as I work with developers...

The trick is redundancy... can the user agents recognize identical strings of information and not pass that through


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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com<mailto:bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>> wrote:
Thanks,
I understand, and have always thought the invisible loss of accessible information was strange.

Should this be raised as an issue to be added to the naming computation, or should this be ignored as something everybody knows and just deals with?

Thanks,
Bryan


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From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>>
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To: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com<mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com>>
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Subject: Re: AccName question about multiple description edge case

It is the expected result because the title is a swing attribute that fills an empty accname or accdesciption

My preference would be that if it is different then it is a concatenation with the accdescrption...

There a lot if override errors in the wild

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com<mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com>> wrote:
Hi Bryan,

I understood this as override accepted by the group ever since the very beginning.
Not clear where exactly this is handled in the accessible description computation requirements.

Personally, I feel unhappy with this override.

Regards
Stefan

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 9:31 AM
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Subject: AccName question about multiple description edge case

Hi,
I'd like to verify the expectation for the following testable statement.

<input type="text" aria-label="LabelText" title="TitleText" id="test" aria-describedby="descid"><div id="descid">DescriptionText</div>

Current results:

accName: "LabelText"
accDesc: "DescriptionText"

The title is lost. Is this the expected result?

Thanks,
Bryan


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