Minutes from 7 December teleconference

Minutes from the ARIA teleconference of 7 December are provided below as text.
They're also available as hypertext at:

https://www.w3.org/2017/12/07-aria-minutes.html


   W3C

                                                      Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

07 Dec 2017

Attendees

   Present
          Joanmarie_Diggs, janina, MichaelC, Matt_King, jongund, Stefan, bryan_garaventa, James_Nurthen

   Regrets
          Becky_Gibson

   Chair
          Joanmarie_Diggs

   Scribe
          janina, MichaelC

Contents

     * Topics
         1. Advancing to Rec
         2. The situation with Core AAM
         3. Reminder: Authoring Practices CfC
         4. Editor's Draft for ARIA 1.2
         5. Sanity-checking aria-expanded
         6. Using github projects for new workflow
         7. Static (née text) role
         8. Next meeting date
     * Summary of Action Items
     * Summary of Resolutions
     _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

   <joanie> agenda: this

   <joanie> agenda: be done

   <joanie> agenda order 1 2 3 4 6 5 7 8

   <janina> scribe: janina

Advancing to Rec

   jd: aria, dpub-aria, dpub-aam all going to rec
   ... Believe apg advancing to note
   ... Pub will be 14 December
   ... core-aam is next agendum

   <joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-admin/2017Dec/0000.html (closes 8 December)

   jd: Notes this closes Friday. Please review!

   <joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2017Nov/0017.html (22 November)

   jd: e-champaigne all around!

The situation with Core AAM

   <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC

   <joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2017Dec/0000.html

   jd: everyone should read the above message sent to the list

   we have an unintended dependency on AccName from Core-AAM

   it was an oversight, there was wording to šsee alsoš in AccName but it was done in normative language

   Director noticed during transition review, after AC review closed

   initially told us we needed to go back to CR for that spec

   but I looked and observed thereÂŽs no new information, no new tests

   yet going back to CR could have a triggered a new 60-day patent exclusion opportunity

   <joanie> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2017Dec/0080.html

   which is process hold-up without much value

   I was able to get agreement that the patent exclusion window wouldnÂŽt be required

   but then did further explanation of what happened

   and made plan that we will send message to AC members who voted on the spec

   asking them if the proposed change would change their review comments

   the changes are detailed in the pull request https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/679

   we gave them until 12:00 pm Boston time on Wednesday 13 December 2017 to respond

   we donÂŽt expect objections (fingers crossed), in which case we should be able to go to Rec

   jg: does AC rep need to do anything?

   jd: if there are no concerns, no reply required

   nobody is allowed to drink Champagne or other celebratory drinks until after this clears next week

Reminder: Authoring Practices CfC

   jd: discussed under first agendum above

Editor's Draft for ARIA 1.2

   <joanie> https://w3c.github.io/aria/

   <janina> scribe: janina

   jd: Note this is our ARIA-1.2 Editors Draft
   ... Also worked on insuring nonpertinent error msgs not exposted to AT
   ... Also, we now have automated snapshots

   mk: So, can work on validation errors in apg!
   ... aria-extended on menu items is blocking html validation
   ... Would like to remove the "ignore" notes, but what to do?
   ... Plan A will be to get clear with publication request
   ... Please help me compose the explanation
   ... So, do we need a Plan B?

   mc: This is one reason I want to send the pub request tomorrow, if possible, but no later than Monday

   mk: Believe we've always had issues related to new ARIA features

   jn: Yes
   ... Asks whether validation checks subdirs where the examples are

   mc: No, so no issue

   jd: So, is APG good to go? About to be good to go?

   mk: Yes

Sanity-checking aria-expanded

   <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/681

   jd: should probably have made it a numbered list ...
   ... we support expanded on everything
   ... Need for authoring to review: yes/no
   ... MK, can you take the action?

   mk: yes

   <bgaraventa1979> +q

   <joanie> Need to sanity check roles which support aria-expanded

   mk: I'll pull together our discussion

   bg: Wondering about tab panel which isn't exposed if not expanded

   mk: Good item for discussion
   ... Birker asked about checkbox use case

   <jongund> JB: I can scibe

   <scribe> scribe: janina

Using github projects for new workflow

   <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects

   jd: Looking at borrowing this approach from apg ...
   ... Looking whether this approach might work

   <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects/2

   [joanie explaining the work flow]

   mk: Notes need to track colab with AT vendors

   jd: Noting the repeating tasks that should be auto supported ... not finding

   mk: also had that interest

   jd: there is a github pi, will try to make a tool for us

   [discussion of github]

Static (née text) role

   <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/projects/1

   jd: We next need wg approval

   <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/tree/role-static

   <joanie> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/role-static/#static

   jd: So we should consider
   ... First branch, second to role in spec

   jn: We need approval for static, or can't do 1.2

   jd: Think this is different, vague recollection
   ... Concern about flattening to plain text
   ... Please consider so we can discuss

Next meeting date

   jd: I am unable 14 Dec
   ... Propose 4 Jan

   [crickets]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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Present: Joanmarie_Diggs janina MichaelC Matt_King jongund Stefan bryan_garaventa James_Nurthen
Regrets: Becky_Gibson
Scribes: janina, MichaelC
Found Date: 07 Dec 2017


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Received on Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:49:30 UTC