[AAPI] Minutes UAI TF Meeting, Tuesday 4 October 2016

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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

   Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

04 Oct 2016

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/04-aapi-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Joseph_Scheuhammer, Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa,
          Richard_Schwerdtfeger

   Regrets
   Chair
          Joseph_Scheuhammer

   Scribe
          joanie

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Microsoft
         2. [5]ACTION-2102/ISSUE-1026: (Rich, All) Create mappings
            based on features in html 5.1 spec.
         3. [6]ISSUE-1047: (Rich/Joseph) Handle special cases for
            aria-roledescription
         4. [7]Github issue-428 (Cynthia/Joseph): clean up UIA
            mapping of aria-haspopup
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     * [9]Summary of Resolutions
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   <clown> agenda: this

   <scribe> scribe: joanie

Microsoft

   RS: Cynthia is not coming back to the group.
   ... I was told by Microsoft to send work that needs to be done
   to Bogdan.
   ... The last branch I was working on, if you could pull that
   in, I want to go through the whole UIA area and find out what's
   missing and ask Bogdan to fill it in.
   ... Bogdan said he would do it.

   JS: Is he familiar with the style?

   RS: Bogdan can give it to you (Joseph) or me, and we can do the
   actual editing.

   JS: I'm fine with your branch that we discussed yesterday.
   ... Let's see what others think.
   ... But then I can pull it in tomorrow.

   RS: There's a 2102a.
   ... Then I had to make some changes for James Teh.
   ... So those are in.

   JS: 2102 was pulled in.

   RS: I'm talking about 2102a.
   ... If you can, pull in branch 2102a.
   ... And 1047 (missed what was said)
   ... I think I have enough to go to James Craig and Bogdan.
   ... I'm also working to get James Teh as an invited expert.

   JS: Will Bogdan be joining us on the calls?

   RS: I don't believe so.

ACTION-2102/ISSUE-1026: (Rich, All) Create mappings based on features
in html 5.1 spec.

   <clown> action-2102

   <trackbot> action-2102 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Create
   mappings based on features in html 5.1 spec. -- due 2016-08-04
   -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2102

     [10] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2102

   JS: This is the 2102a then.
   ... To remind people, Rich was going to add mappings for (lists
   a bunch of roles and properties)

   <clown>
   [11]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.h
   tml

     [11] https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.html

   JS: I pulled it. But I gather there is a 2102a.

   RS: In 2102a, I put in the reverse relationships and final
   mappings for details and errormessage for IA2 and ATK.

   <clown>
   [12]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102/core-aam/core-aam.ht
   ml#ariaDetails

     [12]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails

   <clown>
   [13]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.h
   tml#ariaDetails

     [13]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102a/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails

   JS: (Reading from branch spec text)
   ... I see details-for.

   RS: There's an error-for.

   JS: Ok. Looks good to me.
   ... I turn it over to the rest of the group for their input.

   JD: I believe I've already looked at this and that I told Rich
   it was fine.

   RS: You did.

   (Group discusses if this is ChangeLog-entry worthy. Consensus:
   Yes.)

   JS: I heard today that details and summary were implemented in
   Firefox, but not released yet; in the nightly build.

   <clown>
   [14]https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/783336943388127232

     [14] https://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/status/783336943388127232

   RS: Related aside, we finished all the DPub mappings with the
   exception of UIA, which I sent to Bogdan.

ISSUE-1047: (Rich/Joseph) Handle special cases for
aria-roledescription

   <clown> issue-1047

   <trackbot> issue-1047 -- Mappings for empty
   aria-roledescription and when the element has no implicit nor
   explicit ARIA role -- open

   <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1047

     [15] http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1047

   JS: Special mappings for aria-roledescription when it's empty
   or has nothing but whitespace in it.

   <clown>
   [16]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.htm
   l#ariaRoleDescriptionEmptyWhiteSpaceString

     [16]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaRoleDescriptionEmptyWhiteSpaceString

   JS: Also when it has no explicit ARIA role.
   ... Rich and I have worked on this. See above link.
   ... (Reads/explains mapping proposed)

   JD: What exactly does not mapped mean for my platform?

   <clown>
   [17]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.htm
   l#document-handling_author-errors

     [17]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/issue1047/core-aam/core-aam.html#document-handling_author-errors

   JS: It means it's not in ther at all.

   <clown> User Agents MUST NOT expose
   [18]https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#aria-roledescript
   ion when:

     [18] https://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#aria-roledescription

   <clown> • The element it is applied to has an invalid WAI-ARIA
   role, or

   <clown> • The element does not have an implicit WAI-ARIA role

   JS: The above link is for the error handling section.
   ... I've also pasted the content above.

   <clown> <img aria-roledescripton="love" src="heart.png"
   alt="heart">

   <clown> { ROLE: graphic, ROLE_DESCRIPTION: "love", NAME:
   "heart"

   JS: Should I merge these changes in?

   Group: Yes.

Github issue-428 (Cynthia/Joseph): clean up UIA mapping of
aria-haspopup

   JS: I'm not sure what to do about this.
   ... Cynthia wanted the UIA mapping for aria-haspopup cleaned
   up.
   ... I asked her what she meant by that, but she has not
   answered.
   ... Maybe it's a Bogdan issue now.

   RS: I noticed some other issues, so I'm going to ask Bogdan to
   review everything.

   <clown> [19]https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

     [19] https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

   JS: The URL above is for her issue.
   ... (Reads from issue)
   ... My problem was that aria-haspopup has multiple values now.

   RS: What I remember is that they could not implement all the
   tokens at this time.
   ... So she just wanted to go with expanded/collapsed, or
   whatever it is they are using.

   JS: Well, there is a mapping for each one.
   ... (Reads from spec)

   RS: It doesn't make sense for an expanded collapsed on a popup.

   <clown> [20]https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

     [20] https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/428

   <clown>
   [21]https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#a
   riaHaspopupTrue

     [21]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaHaspopupTrue

   JD: Well, expanded and collapsed does make sense on things
   which have popups.
   ... But expanded/collapsed is not how you map the value of
   aria-haspopup.
   ... If you cannot map the different tokens, I think it needs to
   be a boolean.
   ... What was done before aria-haspopup got all the different
   token types?

   JS: Looking at the REC, it seems they mapped it to an MSAA
   property.

   RS: Let's asked Bogdan.

   Group: Agreed.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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