Minutes from 17 November

Minutes from the ARIA teleconference of 17 November are provided below as
text. They are also available as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2016/11/17-aria-minutes.html


   W3C

                                                                                   - DRAFT -

                                                      Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

17 Nov 2016

   Agenda

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Joanmarie_Diggs, Janina, MichaelC, Jason_Duan, Matt_King, James_Nurthen

   Regrets
          Joseph_Scheuhammer

   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          Janina

Contents

     * Topics
         1. DPub ARIA CR
         2. ARIA in HTML review
         3. ARIA 1.1 testing update
         4. Continue ARIA 1.2 triage of HTML 5 features
         5. Next Meeting
     * Summary of Action Items
     * Summary of Resolutions
     _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

   <Jason_Duan> Hello everyone

   <Jason_Duan> can anyone head me?

   <Jason_Duan> I am from IBM

   <Jason_Duan> no luck with computer audio. dialing in

   <MichaelC> agenda order 1, 4

DPub ARIA CR

   <scribe> scribe: Janina

   mc: Any objections to a CfC on ARIA-Dpub?

   [No objections]

   <MichaelC> DPub ARIA CR CfC

   mc: Hope to publish week following

ARIA in HTML review

   mc: ARIA in HTML Review requested:

   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Nov/0024.html

   <MichaelC> APA tracking of ARIA in HTML

   janina: Notes Michiel is reviewing for APA Action-2104 and cross referencing APG

   mc: Proposing the APA review will suffice for this WG as well

   janina: Proposing to have him report to both WGs and get the wider audience

   mc: Question for now is does anyone want to also review?

   mk: No, but I have raised issues on that doc

   mc: Anyone we think should review it?

   [crickets]

   jd: Also raised an issue not yet addressed

   mk: Have raised some that have been addessed

   [People looking at open issues]

   janina: Noting this was once a joint ownership, via the HTML-A11y TF
   ... Therefore, we owe a good review

   mc: We'll re-address this in a couple weeks

ARIA 1.1 testing update

   mc: Anything additional this week?

   jd: Still working, but nothing major to report

   mc: No Testing mtg this week?

   jd: Correct

Continue ARIA 1.2 triage of HTML 5 features

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#textlevel-semantics

   mc: Text level semantics
   ... <a > we need nothing

   jn: Do we have a mapping for an anchor? Is that important?
   ... Just asking

   mc: Think not, nothing exposed to api
   ... so, do we worry about rel?
   ... Notes there's a lot there ... Do we need these, or save for 2.0
   ... Suggest we'd need to go one by one
   ... I suggest they're useful but not widely used, so could be 2.0

   mk: We use it to view a style sheet in the apg

   mc: But not on an <a > tag
   ... Propose this is 2.0

   [crickets]

   mk: Mapping things not used by AT doesn't make sense, so we want them only if think they would be useful to AT

   jn: If it were widespread and supported, it would be very useful
   ... But neither is true now

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 480 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/480

   jn: Notes this overlaps Dpub

   mc: What about target attrib?
   ... We know it's supported
   ... Tells what window ...
   ... WCAG SCs refer to this
   ... Do we need mapping to tell AT where to go?

   mk: Today we add invisible text ---

   mc: Some AT will tell you about text ---

   mk: We did change HasPopup

   mc: Does HasPopup meet the use case?

   mk: No, need value like "Window"

   mc: I think we need to consider this

   mk: Agree

   mc: So Issue-481

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 481 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/481

   mc: Continuing with others of <a >

   jd: href covered on Linux ...

   mc: Suggests we need it

   jd: Agree

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 482 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/482

   mc: Next download attrib -- believe this is ua ...
   ... Do we want to indicate that rather than open?

   mk: Would propose to cover with target

   mc: So add to target issue
   ... So updated 481
   ... Next hreflang ...
   ... Believe not supported by tools
   ... Lang not known until link opened without this, so could be a basis for choice, but haven't seen this used

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 483 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/483

   janina: Suggest to ask Dpub and assessment people like ETS

   mc: Attrib=type a mime
   ... Allows selection of prefered mime
   ... But also not used

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 484 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/484

   mc: Reviewing which are 1.2 and 2.0

   mk: Let's keep for now and see what the discussion is

   mc: Next <em>

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-em-element

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-strong-element

   mc: Suggest also <strong>

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-b-element

   mk: Are <b> and <i> still there?

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-i-element

   <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-u-element

   jd: Currently exposed through text attributes
   ... We can't really say "emphasis" by simply mapping to <i>

   mk: Pondering using properties

   jd: Or an attrib in ARIA
   ... Proposing ARIA support

   janina: Suggesting the history is that these were intended as simple replacements for b and i

   mk: We should keep these pieces together for future discussion
   ... Think there would coordination on these questions with the new CSS A11y TF

   jd: And ins and del

   mk: We have some kind of mapping for ins

   mc: Also code? samp? etc
   ... Want to look for where we need correspondances -- not necessarily the semantics
   ... Also cite?
   ... Also q ?

   [agreement]

   mc: q is inline quotation
   ... Almost never see it ...
   ... Notes some of these attribs are style, and some are semantic, but different people would class each differently

   <MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 485 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/485

   mk: Willing eventually, but suggest ideal is CSS and perhaps Dpub

   mc: Want to look at who to assign these in remaining minutes ....

Next Meeting

   mc: Next will be December 1 -- no meeting U.S. Thanksgiving Day!

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]
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Found Scribe: Janina
Present: Joanmarie_Diggs Janina MichaelC Jason_Duan Matt_King James_Nurthen
Regrets: Joseph_Scheuhammer
Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Nov/0041.html

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