- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:06:44 -0400
- To: W3C WAI ARIA <public-aria@w3.org>
Minutes from the ARIA Teleconference of 3 November are provided below as text,
and are available as hypertext at:
http://www.w3.org/2016/11/03-aria-minutes.html
W3C
- DRAFT -
Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
03 Nov 2016
Agenda
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joanmarie_Diggs, Janina, matt_king, ShaneM, MichaelC, jongund
Regrets
Chair
Rich
Scribe
janina
Contents
* Topics
1. Heads Up Items
2. HTML5 Input Elements for ARIA 1.2
3. testable statements
* Summary of Action Items
* Summary of Resolutions
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<scribe> scribe: janina
Heads Up Items
No meeting Thursday 24 November -- U.S. Thanksgiving Day
Michael will chair next two calls, Rich away on vacation.
Please note U.S. adjusts off Daylight Time, so we're back to the usual times for our participants
HTML5 Input Elements for ARIA 1.2
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/sec-forms.html#the-input-element
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/sec-forms.html#element-attrdef-input-type
rich: We'll need ARIA Attributes, probably
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/sec-forms.html#element-attrdef-input-type
rich: Have different element types
... We need to assign to folks, and do some triaje now
... Text with no line breaks -- Suggest we need nothing on this?
matt: Recalls multiline, others -- we're OK
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/sec-forms.html#element-attrdef-input-type
rich: Next, search box ... We have ...
... Notes types are all in first column in the table
... We have search box -- what about the combobox?
matt: our search is subclass of textbox
... subclassing for combo seems excessive
rich: don't believe we need do anything
matt: OK
jn: Suggest description is a bit different
... Agrees, we're OK
[Agreement we need nothing new for Search Combobox]
[side discussion re respec issues]
rich: Hmmm, it works in Chrome
michael: Refresh in Chrome, also Firefox
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-html51-20161101/sec-forms.html#element-attrdef-input-type
Shane: Will take a look
... Notes above link isn't using respec -- uses Bikeshed
matt: Same issue on ARIA spec
rich: Next, for telephone -- a type
matt: If anything, would case a screen reader to read more appropriately
jn: Notes css would help, type=tel
matt: If mapped
jn: Apple has this, no
rich: We can certainly expand apis to support
janina: Suggests value in formatting for telephone, currency, calendar notation, etc.
matt: Suggest ARIA-FormatType -- ennumerated token type that maps to html
[agreement]
jn: I'll take it if we put these in github
<ShaneM> who remembers XHTML Basic inputmode attribute?
<ShaneM> https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic/#s_inputmode
rich: Next, Password ---
jn: Format Type=Obscurred
matt: Like it!
joanie: Notes GTK property what char is rendered when obscurred
matt: So obscurring char would not be author controlled, but platform
... Could do ARIA-ObfiscationChar=[char]
jn: How does this help on disengenuous passwords?
[agreement it doesn't]
<ShaneM> +1 to jamesn's point
jn: Notes that sometimes password is shown intentionally
rich: Next -- date
... Is browser dependent and takes on different forms
matt: Isn't it also a form type field?
rich: could popup a calendar
matt: Mapping a calendar would be impossible unless we made everyone behave the same way
... Notes controls for date, week, hour, time, etc
jn: How this is rendered is totaly browser dependent
rich: Notes Lisa will be very interested in this
matt: Is the browser going to do anything for the author to make date accessible?
jn: Notes pretty good on some mobile platforms, but not on the desktop
matt: agree
rich: Notes we can create a calendar
matt: yes
rich: Suggest to indicate among date format types
jn: no
... Suggests it needs to be hint text, or placeholder
matt: aria-format=date attribute and leave it at that
[agreement]
jn: perhaps an associated button that launches something
... Suggests we need a way to associate a button with the text field to launch something additional -- a dialog
matt: suggests controls, or describedby ...
jn: Usually we do describedby, but not as refined as I'd like
matt: suggests grid
jn: no
... We might have number that isn't spin button -- so I'll propose with my action
testable statements
rich: we have aria-dpub with many elements
... was going to have a way to test based on id
shane: spec'd but don't recall whether implemented
... It's trivial, though
rich: In test harness? Where?
Michael: Suggest same place as all other ARIA tests ? ...
... Maybe separate ...
shane: propose wpt a folder there
michael: With just one test, wiki is overkill
rich: Same suite of tests for ARIA for Dpub?
shane: no
jg: will send out notice for testing meeting wednesday
rich: Craig will get to mappings in December
... Don't know what's happening with Microsoft. No response from anyone there
... If no responses in next few weeks, may need to drop them from the table
... Notes change in doc-pullquote -- will need to map
... probably shouldn't be mapped at all, but will discuss with Craig
... May want to go to CR even while I'm on vacation, which is OK with me
michael: Need CfC urgently
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Found Scribe: janina
Present: Rich_Schwerdtfeger Joanmarie_Diggs Janina matt_king ShaneM MichaelC jongund
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Email: janina@rednote.net
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