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Re: Conflicting inclusion/exclusion criteria for elements in the accessibility tree (Was: Re: [ARIA] Agenda: March 3, 2016 WAI-ARIA Working Group)

From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:08:15 -0400
To: Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>, "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@whatsock.com>
Message-ID: <56EAD66F.6070605@alum.mit.edu>
Thanks Fred,

On 2016-03-16 9:50 AM, Fred Esch wrote:
> When doing a widget, it often makes sense to only have one element 
> with tabindex 0 at a time. That allows the user leave the widget using 
> tab or shift tab. If you are using arrow keys to move within the 
> widget, when you handle an arrow key event, you switch the moved to 
> element to tabindex 0 and the element you moved from to tabindex -1. 
> The developer can call the onfocus function on the moved to element as 
> part of the key event handling.

This is the "roving" tabindex technique as described in the APG [1].  It 
doesn't suffer from the problem described in the HTML5 spec, since it 
provides navigation for a keyboard-only user.

The HTML5 spec is addressing the case where there is no such 
provision.   Using your example:  if there was no script for the arrow 
keystrokes, then a keyboard-only user would be stuck, since there would 
be no way they could navigate among the elements with a negative 
tabindex.  In that case, HTML5 suggests that the "... user agent would 
be well justified in allowing the user to tab to the control 
regardless". [2]

How the user agent determines this condition is beyond me.  A better 
approach would be to advise the author to make provision for 
keyboard-only users.

[2] https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/editing.html#negative-tabindex, 
specifically the note.


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