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Re: Updated combobox examples for APG

From: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:11:39 +0000
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D3006D60.520EA%jongund@illinois.edu>
Bryan,

I think we can have examples in the APG that represent the alternatives,
and when things are finalized we delete the examples that donšt implement
the specification.
This is especially useful for people who are not as familiar with the
issue,  seeing alternatives in code helps people not tracking the issues
as closely. 
These examples do work in other browsers like Firefox with JAWS and NVDA,
so common examples are important for people can use to test and understand
the issues.
We can make additional examples putting combobox on the input element.

Jon


On 3/4/16, 7:37 PM, "Bryan Garaventa" <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>In testing the markup, focus is bounced out of the combobox when using
>JAWS in IE11, and neither is accessible.
>
>The reason is because JAWS doesn't support the use of role="combobox" on
>the parent container of a focusable editable element, so the
>role="combobox" attribute needs to be on the HTML input for this to work
>accessibly, including all associated attributes, which matches the spec
>text in 1.0.
>
>Currently we don't have agreement how or if putting role="combobox" on an
>ancestor element in the markup is supposed to work, so putting this in
>the APG is premature because nothing in the spec says this, so too is
>adding the guidance that the combobox will open a Dialog because nothing
>has been mapped to support this on any platform.
>
>We are scheduled to talk about the ancestor issue next Thursday when
>Cynthia can attend the Caucus call.
>
>I recommend that we not put things in the APG that haven't achieved
>consensus, otherwise we will have an obsolete document before it's even
>finished.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gunderson, Jon R [mailto:jongund@illinois.edu]
>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 1:23 PM
>To: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>; ARIA Working Group
><public-aria@w3.org>
>Subject: RE: Updated combobox examples for APG
>
>Better links:
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x-1.html 
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x-2.html 
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x-3.html 
>
>Jon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gunderson, Jon R [mailto:jongund@illinois.edu]
>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 3:21 PM
>To: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
>Subject: Updated combobox examples for APG
>
>We have also updated the combo box examples to use aria-selected and
>created an additional example using aria-activedescendant.
>
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x
>-1.html
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x
>-2.html
>https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria/master/practices/examples/combobox/combobo
>x
>-3.html
>
>
>Please review, test and comment.
>
>Jon
>
>
>
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