- From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 00:29:37 +0000
- To: Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>, 'ARIA Working Group' <public-aria@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <SN1PR0301MB1981266630D9D3D17511826E98BF0@SN1PR0301MB1981.namprd03.prod.outlook.>
"When these widgets are coded incorrectly they cannot truly be made accessible (see my post earlier this week on tabs), so it is hugely important that the spec leaves minimal room for interpretation." +1 From: Birkir Gunnarsson [mailto:birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 3:10 PM To: 'ARIA Working Group' <public-aria@w3.org> Subject: Interpreting the "required own elements" section of the ARIA spec Good afternoon (and a happy weekend) to everyone. I have a question regarding the ARIA 1.1 spec - section 5.2.5, required owned elements : https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#mustContain copy of the text: "Any element that will be owned by the element with this role. For example, an element with the role list will own at least one element with the role group or listitem. When multiple roles are specified as required owned elements for a role, at least one instance of one required owned element is expected. This specification does not require an instance of each of the listed owned roles. For example, a menu should have at least one instance of a menuitem, menuitemcheckbox, or menuitemradio. The menu role does not require one instance of each." My questions: In addition to owning at least one instance of the required element role, can the element own elements with a different role? For instance, can a menu own a menuitem element as well as a link or a form field? for example: <div role="menu"> <span role="menuitem">Item 1</span> <a href="#">Help for item 1</a> </div> My understanding is that all children of an element must have the required owned element role. This is important for enabling interaction for assistive technology applications. An element with an unexpected role in an interactive widget can break the assistive technology paradigm for that widget (for example by forcing assistive technology in and out of interactive mode). But I have difficulty clearly seeing this communicated in the spec. The closest I get is by looking at the first sentence: "Any element that will be owned by the element with this role." My interpretation is that all children of the element must have a required own element role, but I am not sure. Neither are some of the developers I work with. 1. Is my understanding correct, that an element may only own children with a required owned element role? 2. Can we change the text to state this more explicitly, either by changing the wording or adding an explanatory note? When these widgets are coded incorrectly they cannot truly be made accessible (see my post earlier this week on tabs), so it is hugely important that the spec leaves minimal room for interpretation. Thanks -Birkir
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