RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

Thanks for clarification. I made a request to local IT to update my machine to the latest build published and will test then again.

Best Regards
Stefan

From: John Jansen [mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com]
Sent: Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 18:08
To: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>; Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>; Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>; Rakesh Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>; suman.damera@deque.com; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; public-aria-test@w3.org
Subject: RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

You are on a very old build of Windows 10, so your results will not reflect any of the really awesome work we've done in the past year (your build is from last spring).

In order for WebDriver to work with your build, you will need to install the 10240 build from the link below. However, as I say, you'll not see any of our accessibility updates in that build. What you really want to do is get the latest Windows Insiders build which will have our new accessibility tree and the tree viewer in F12.

https://insider.windows.com/


From: Schnabel, Stefan [mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 9:03 AM
To: John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com<mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com>>; Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com<mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>>; Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com<mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com<mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com<mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>; suman.damera@deque.com<mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com<mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
Subject: RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

John,

Many thanks for quick answer. As a matter of fact, I downloaded the Insiders version from the given location before I wrote the last mail. My Edge is 20.10240.16384.0
This give me the ("Ordinal 870 cannot be located in dynamic link library error") on start. I have Win 10 Enterprise 64bit with latest fixes.

BTW, I notetd that Edge seems not to map nodes referenced with aria-describedby relations to MSAA accDescription, IE 11 does. Can you verify that? Is there a comparison chart regarding Delta IE/Edge WAI ARIA support?

Best Regards
Stefan

From: John Jansen [mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com]
Sent: Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 17:31
To: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com<mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com>>; Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com<mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>>; Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com<mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com<mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com<mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>; suman.damera@deque.com<mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com<mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
Subject: RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

It should be compatible with the latest Windows Insider build. We are going to add some version checking in the future to help with this :)

What you should do is download a new driver[1] that matches your build.

-John

[1] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/webdriver/

From: Schnabel, Stefan [mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com]
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 3:03 AM
To: Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com<mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>>; Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com<mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com<mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com<mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com<mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>; suman.damera@deque.com<mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com<mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
Subject: RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

Cynthia,

Is the MicrosoftWebDriver.exe attached to the github project compliant to Edge V20.x ?
I get strange errors ("Ordinal 870 cannot be located") when running the Server on Win 10 latest.

Regards
Stefan


From: Cynthia Shelly [mailto:cyns@microsoft.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 22:18
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com<mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com<mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com<mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com<mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>; suman.damera@deque.com<mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com<mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
Subject: RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

Microsoft is planning to do MSAA, but not IA2. Someone should be able to build on top of that. It's a couple days of straightforward coding to build one of these.

Rakesh and Suman,
Do you have C# or Python skills? Our stuff is written in C#, and I believe Joanie is doing the ATK one in Python.

Here's the github
https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/A11y

A kickoff call would be great, but I don't think we should block on that, given the time zone differences.

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:richschwer@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:40 AM
To: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org<mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week

Jon,

Has anyone started on adapting the automated testing for msaa/IA2?

Rich

On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>> wrote:

Rich,

Can you add an agenda item to discuss the ARIA testing this week:
1.      Update on availability of automated ARIA implementation testing tools
2.      Meeting time for the testing group

Here is a wiki page created to start collecting information on ARIA Implementation Testing:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Automated_Testing

Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
Coordinator of IT Accessibility
Disability Resources and Education Services
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

E-mail: jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>