- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:32:27 -0400
- To: W3C WAI ARIA <public-aria@w3.org>
Minutes from the ARIA teleconference of 28 July are provided below as text, and are
available as hypertext at:
http://www.w3.org/2016/07/28-aria-minutes.html
W3C
- DRAFT -
Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
28 Jul 2016
See also: IRC log
Attendees
Present
JF, JaEunJemmaKu, MichielBijl, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Janina
Regrets
Joanie
Chair
Rich
Scribe
janina
Contents
* Topics
1. Working Draft Status
2. Issues & Actions
3. Testing
4. Core AAM Blockers
* Summary of Action Items
* Summary of Resolutions
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<Rich> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Jul/0184.html
<scribe> scribe: janina
Working Draft Status
rs: No substantive feedback any longer
... Main issue is test cases
... CfC's on SVG OK, decision email soon
... One comment on Graphics module, should go soon after Michael returns
topic; TPAC
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2016/registrants#ARIA
rs: Will have great participation
... Many participants in additionn to the usual suspects
... Many observer requests--all responded to
... Hope there's enough space!
... Will now be working on agenda draft
... Will meet with TAG at some point, other cross group meetings
... Also Web Apps and COGA
jf: What about authentication?
rs: An APA issue
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2016
janina: Will ask that Security meet with us. There's lots a11y pressure to move beyond passwd, but it's not for WAI to define password successors
cyns: Asks about CSS?
janina: Will have a joint meeting, I expect
Issues & Actions
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/17
<clown> issue-648
<trackbot> issue-648 -- Role computation with native host language semantics -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/648
rs: Expect this is OBE
... If we run into conflicts from Dpub work, we might come back, but otherwise OBE
... Item clean up spec nits ...
<clown> issue-695
<trackbot> issue-695 -- Clean up nits in the ARIA specification -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/695
<clown> action-1567
<trackbot> action-1567 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Fix inconsistencies in linking and styles for properties -- due 2016-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1567
clown: Sees an open action referenced in this issue ...
<clown> issue-106
<trackbot> Sorry, but issue-106 does not exist.
<clown> issue-1106
<trackbot> Sorry, but issue-1106 does not exist.
rs: Anything left in this?
... Believe should have been closed
<clown> acitin-2085
<clown> action-2085
<trackbot> action-2085 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Create a branch making spinbutton subclass composite -- due 2016-06-23 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2085
rs: OK, we close this
... Next item ...
... MC has draft exit criteria, but we wait for MC to take it up ...
<clown> action-1723?
<trackbot> action-1723 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Editorial - create sections listing the roles that provide (1) nameFrom:author and (2) nameFrom:contents -- due
2016-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1723
rs: Seeing editorial items
... Nothing for us today ...
... Looks like all major done!
... Next Item -- Testing
Testing
cyns: Meeting set for next week, scheduling conflict
... Believe it's Wednesday
... Had good discussion and set actions a couple weeks ago
... Actions include UIA Connector, getting expected results into machine readable format, a parser for those, etc
rs: Plan for test cases? test statements?
cyns: Not me on that
rs: Anyone on IA2? Or Mac?
cyns: Not so far as I'm aware
rs: Urgent item is testable statements with expected results -- Will take up with MC
cyns: Expect to have json format specified by next week -- hopefully
rs: Regardless, test cases could go forward in parallel
cyns: Hoping for json in the test cases themselves
... db would be ok? But current db results not machine readable
rs: JF, do India people know how to write test cases?
jf: Generally speaking, yes, but we need examples
... They would benefit from a pattern to follow
... Hope to have sensitivity to meeting times OK for India
cyns: Hoping we won't need meetings
jf: But may be of use one or two at least at first
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1
rs: above examples from aria 1.0
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1
rs: Anyone able to help write these going forward?
... I'll start
cyns: Probably after I finish with infrastructure
<jemma> I am happy to help with test case statement
jf: Think my guys need a walkthrough of what's going on to come up to speed
... Thereafter, they need a list of what needs writing
[room remembers the pain of writing 1.0 test cases]
Jemma: Can help
Core AAM Blockers
rs: Activie descendent?
clown: Need to investigate more
... Wen through spec looking a new roles and filed some issues
... missing role mappings feed, figure, and term
clown, missing properties -- several table, colcount, colindex, colspan, row count, row index, row span
clown: missing mappings for aria details
... believe some will be easy ...
<clown> ACTION: Rich to create mappings based on features in HTML 5.1 spec. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/28-aria-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2102 - Create mappings based on features in html 5.1 spec. [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2016-08-04].
<clown> action-2102
<trackbot> action-2102 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Create mappings based on features in html 5.1 spec. -- due 2016-08-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2102
clown: having trouble reaching consensus on aria-errormessage
... completes the gap ...
rs: believe that's it
... Cynthia, when can you look at mappings for Dpub?
... They want to update
<Rich> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html#mapping_role_table
cyns: Will not implement soon, so will have hard time
rs: Want to makesure IA2 is aligned with atk/at-spi
cyns: asking about timeline
rs: would like in the next month?
cyns: not promissing
... May be able to do it while in Lisbon!
... will try, cannot promise
... part of the problem is that document structures are hard in uia
... uia not aimed at docs, and it's complicated to support docs
<clown> if this is the latest IA2 documentation, then landmark isn't documented:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/_accessible_role_8idl.html
rs: is role landmark in ia2 spec
clown: not sure i have latest ia2
rs: need to circle back with alex on ia2
... could dedicate time to writing test cases during tpac
... any other business?
<jemma_> thanks
[meeting adjournes]
<clown> https://github.com/IBMa/AccProbe
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Rich to create mappings based on features in HTML 5.1 spec. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/28-aria-minutes.html#action01]
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Found Scribe: janina
Present: JF JaEunJemmaKu MichielBijl Rich_Schwerdtfeger Joseph_Scheuhammer Janina
Regrets: Joanie
Found Date: 28 Jul 2016
People with action items: rich
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Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200
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Email: janina@rednote.net
Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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