- From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:06:12 -0400
- To: Alexander Surkov <asurkov@mozilla.com>
- Cc: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>, James Teh <jamie@nvaccess.org>
Hey Alex. I read that. But that's talking about the Table -- and not the TableCell -- interface, right? If I have a cell, and the TableCell -- not the Table -- interface is implemented for that cell, then I should be able to ask that cell for its span. I don't see how that would be impacted by gaps. --joanie On 08/08/2016 03:56 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: > Hi, Joanie and Rich. > > Here's Jamie's email pointing to a problem if colspan/rowspan are > exposed via AccessibleTable interface [1]. > > The difference between HTML and ARIA attributes is that ARIA can be > used to create tables with gaps, while HTML cannot. AccessibleTable is > not suitable to expose such tables. > > [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-June/001913.html > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com> wrote: >> Hey Alex. >> >> Could you not use the TableCell interface for this? >> * >> https://developer.gnome.org/atk/stable/AtkTableCell.html#atk-table-cell-get-column-span >> * >> https://developer.gnome.org/atk/stable/AtkTableCell.html#atk-table-cell-get-row-span >> >> --joanie >> >> On 08/08/2016 03:10 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Iirc there's a problem to make the accessible table interface to >>> reflect aria- values as they can be used to create not-yet-loaded >>> grids, see Jamie's concern [1]. I think that's why we expose them as >>> object attributes and group position in IA2. >>> >>> Joanie, what is your thinking on this issue, since ATK and IA2 >>> shouldn't be different on this? >>> >>> Note, the spec says to map aria-rowspan and aria-colspan into IA2 >>> table interface, they should be mapped into object attributes instead. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Alex. >>> >>> [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-June/001913.html >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Rich Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Alex, >>>> >>>> Please take a look. Joanie reviewed ATK/ATSPI >>>> >>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action2102/core-aam/core-aam.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Joseph, >>>> >>>> Alex is updating the IA2 spec. I am waiting on aria-errormessage and >>>> aria-details mappings. Also, Cynthia is going on vacation. I fixed her >>>> aria-rowspan and aria-colspan mappings but I will have to wait until she >>>> returns to get the rest for action 2102. I also still need to get the Mac >>>> mappings. We might want to pull in the changes after Alex weighs in on the >>>> this branch. there are A LOT. … or we can wait. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Rich >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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