RE: [SVG] graphics-doc role should be graphics-document (ARIA has avoided inconsistent abbreviation)

Stefan,

We are not claiming a graphics-document should be a landmark, but it is an
interesting thought.

                                                              
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    Fred Esch                                                 
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From: "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
To: Fred Esch/Arlington/IBM@IBMUS, Rich Schwerdtfeger
            <richschwer@gmail.com>
Cc: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>, James
            Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, ARIA Working Group
            <public-aria@w3.org>, SVG-A11y TF <public-svg-a11y@w3.org>
Date: 04/29/2016 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: [SVG] graphics-doc role should be graphics-document (ARIA
            has   avoided  inconsistent abbreviation)



Due to the close relationship
https://www.w3.org/TR/graphics-aria-1.0/#graphics-doc with role=”document”:

Application and document are currently treated as landmarks in AT.

Should it be possible to use landmark navigation to navigate to elements
with role=“graphics-document”? With other words,
is “graphics-document” besides from being ARIA structure related intended
to have landmark properties, too?

If so, the long format would reflect that more properly.

- Stefan

From: Fred Esch [mailto:fesch@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Freitag, 29. April 2016 15:27
To: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
Cc: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>; James Craig
<jcraig@apple.com>; ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; SVG-A11y TF
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Subject: Re: [SVG] graphics-doc role should be graphics-document (ARIA has
avoided inconsistent abbreviation)



Either graphics-doc or graphics-document is fine by me.



                                                     
     Regards,                                        
                                                     
    Fred Esch                                        
 Watson, IBM, W3C                                    
  Accessibility                                      
                                                     
 IBM Watson       Watson Release Management and      
                  Quality                            
                                                     






Inactive hide details for Rich Schwerdtfeger ---04/28/2016 11:37:46 PM---I
am fine with changing it but with the prefix it is aRich Schwerdtfeger
---04/28/2016 11:37:46 PM---I am fine with changing it but with the prefix
it is a mouthful. Now would be the time to change it.

From: Rich Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
To: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>
Cc: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org
>, SVG-A11y TF <public-svg-a11y@w3.org>
Date: 04/28/2016 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SVG] graphics-doc role should be graphics-document (ARIA has
avoided inconsistent abbreviation)




I am fine with changing it but with the prefix it is a mouthful. Now would
be the time to change it. We can post it like does anyone object to the
name change and just do it if no objections. I don't want to take meeting
time for that.

Rich

Rich

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On Apr 28, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Amelia Bellamy-Royds <
amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com> wrote:
            If there is consensus on the main ARIA working group to go with
            the longer name, I don't have a problem with that. In the SVG
            Accessibility Task Force, we did discuss a number of variations
            on the name and settled on graphics-doc as a compromise between
            concise and comprehensible.

            I would ask for a quick resolution, though (i.e., comments on
            mailing list this week & discussion at the next ARIA telcon),
            so we can update all the specs sooner rather than later, and
            definitely before the next heartbeat drafts.

            ~Amelia

            On 28 April 2016 at 19:14, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
            wrote:
                  While reviewing a related thread, I noticed the
                  "graphics-doc" role should be "graphics-document"... With
                  the unfortunate exception of the "img" role (I admit
                  missing this), ARIA has avoided inconsistent
                  abbreviation.

                  http://www.w3.org/TR/graphics-aria-1.0/#graphics-doc