- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:43:57 -0500
- To: James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>
- Cc: public-aria@w3.org
- Message-Id: <B3041950-5F08-4E4B-9985-61C986A209F4@gmail.com>
You cannot make an accessible password field in SVG without it. > On Apr 8, 2016, at 11:40 AM, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com> wrote: > > > > On 4/8/2016 9:37 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: >> On 08/04/16 17:22, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: >>> Companies do not use standard HTML markup when they feel it does not >>> meet their needs. It really does not have anything to do with whether >>> the markup is semantically correct. This is happening now and we >>> don’t even have a password role. Companies that must do this for >>> business reasons need a way to make it accessible. >> They have a way to make it accessible - use a proper password field. So >> what you are asking for is actually a second way to make it accessible. >> What happens if some company then comes forward and says they can't use >> your solution because for security reasons they aren't allowed to label >> the field "password" in any way. What do you do then? Invent an alias >> and call it "type='mrblobby'"? >> >> There is only a certain distance one should go to accommodate ridiculous >> corporate requests. "We want to do passwords but don't want to use >> password fields" is a user-hostile request (both for users requiring >> accessibility technology and other users) and should be treated as such. > How can someone create a password field in SVG without this? > > Regards, > James > >> >>> The bigger issue is that passwords as a technology have long outlived >>> their usefulness. The growing world aging population has issues >>> remembering passwords for all the sites they have to gain access to >>> so they often use a simple, short, easy to remember password across >>> all the sites creating a security issue. To this end even HTML’s >>> password is a security risk as it is much easier to hack. This can >>> result in identity theft and a whole litany of issues. Captchas are >>> also a huge problem for aging users. >> This may be so; but encouraging people to use non-password fields for >> passwords and so avoiding all the software people are using to help them >> manage the password problem (which does make things better) doesn't help. >> >> Gerv >> > > -- > Regards, James > <oracle_sig_logo.gif> <http://www.oracle.com/> > James Nurthen | Principal Engineer, Accessibility > Phone: +1 650 506 6781 <tel:+1%20650%20506%206781> | Mobile: +1 415 987 1918 <tel:+1%20415%20987%201918> | Video: <sip:james.nurthen@oracle.com>james.nurthen@oracle.com <mailto:james.nurthen@oracle.com> > Oracle Corporate Architecture > 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood Cty, CA 94065 > <green-for-email-sig_0.gif> <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment >
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