RE: [en] ARIA Authoring Practices Guide

Thank, Matt, for being part of the W3C APG journey. I use this resource all the time in my work and direct others to it as well. Keep up the good work!

PTO alert:
July 1-July 16.

Regards,

Valorie Sundby, CPWA, ADS (she/her)
Principal Accessibility Consultant
Experience Design, Content & Accessibility
KP Digital

Kaiser Permanente Information Technology
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From: Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 5:59 PM
To: Valorie J Sundby <Valorie.J.Sundby@kp.org>; public-aria-practices@w3.org
Subject: RE: [en] ARIA Authoring Practices Guide


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Hi Valorie,

Thank you for your feedback. I'm glad to hear at least part of you is thrilled with the new APG. Launch of the new design is just one more step in our long journey toward an APG that better serves the needs of people working on developing a more accessible web. Like any launch, it hasn't been without oversights and compromises, including those you mentioned.

You wrote:

>While aria-label is used to on the Learn More buttons, it is not a mechanism that helps people who use screen readers for cognitive support. Primarily because the aria-label does not contain the visible text.
> ...
>Two links adjacent on the page "View Patterns" and" Learn More" go to the same place and are labelled differently.

These problems are noted in issue 2328:
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2328<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/2328__;!!BZ50a36bapWJ!tSRElKcswn2EHZBLYzbbPIs3TvSJz_h41aQR8N738sa80sMyBu5fexCGPffFOiuwat_d3XWfX_eVnYbZbWu7qAY6$>

The fix is in progress and should be in production by June 24.

You wrote:

>User experience - I now have to scroll through a long page of "cards" to find the pattern I need with a lot of eye shifting left to right.
> ...
>Consider adding a list view in the future.

We have this issue open:
https://github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/issues/29<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/issues/29__;!!BZ50a36bapWJ!tSRElKcswn2EHZBLYzbbPIs3TvSJz_h41aQR8N738sa80sMyBu5fexCGPffFOiuwat_d3XWfX_eVnYbZbb8_XFPt$>

We are planning a usability study for later in the year and will consider this issue along with other feedback as we make adjustments to the design.

I hope the work to address these issues lessens your sadness some.

Best,
Matt King

From: Valorie J Sundby <Valorie.J.Sundby@kp.org<mailto:Valorie.J.Sundby@kp.org>>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:02 AM
To: public-aria-practices@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-practices@w3.org>
Subject: [en] ARIA Authoring Practices Guide

Part of me is thrilled with the new APG, another part of me is saddened to see accessibility issues right away on the page.

https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/__;!!BZ50a36bapWJ!tSRElKcswn2EHZBLYzbbPIs3TvSJz_h41aQR8N738sa80sMyBu5fexCGPffFOiuwat_d3XWfX_eVnYbZbeFBeeId$> has failures:

  *   F84: Failure of Success Criterion 2.4.9 due to using a non-specific link such as "click here" or "more" without a mechanism to change the link text to specific text. While aria-label is used to on the Learn More buttons, it is not a mechanism that helps people who use screen readers for cognitive support. Primarily because the aria-label does not contain the visible text. Example: <a href="practices/landmark-regions/" aria-label="View landmarks guide" class="button-link">Learn More</a>
  *   F31: Failure of Success Criterion 3.2.4 due to using two different labels for the same function on different Web pages within a set of Web pages. Two links adjacent on the page "View Patterns" and" Learn More" go to the same place and are labelled differently.  Again, the aria-label would be confusing to those who use screen readers for cognitive support

User experience - I now have to scroll through a long page of "cards" to find the pattern I need with a lot of eye shifting left to right. The simple list was much easier to navigate for the seasoned accessibility professional. Consider adding a list view in the future.


PTO alert:
July 1-July 16.

Regards,

Valorie Sundby, CPWA, ADS (she/her)
Principal Accessibility Consultant
Experience Design, Content & Accessibility
KP Digital

Kaiser Permanente Information Technology
(520) 269-9252
valorie.j.sundby@kp.org<mailto:valorie.j.sundby@kp.org>

Need Help? Complete the Accessibility Intake Form<https://jira-aes.kp.org/servicedesk/customer/portal/13/create/595>

Accessibility is a journey, not a destination


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