RE: Pilot test - need volunteers

Oh, howdy Boaz! Awesome of you to reach out, and thanks for the warm welcome. I serve as an invited expert on the ARIA WG, which is where most of my standards-related time is spent. I haven’t really been on the ARIA-AT calls, but I have tons of thoughts on the patterns being discussed.

 

I’m happy to help, and happy to facilitate James and other folks that work for me to help too.

 

Thanks for your work on this and accessibility at large, friend.

 

By the way, I’m moving others to BCC to help preserve the thread.

 

Take care,

Sina

 

President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.

Phone: 919-345-3832

https://www.PAC.bz

Twitter: @SinaBahram

Personal Website:  <https://www.sinabahram.com> https://www.sinabahram.com

 

From: Boaz Sender <boaz@bocoup.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:42 PM
To: Sina Bahram <sina@sinabahram.com>
Cc: Terrill Thompson <tft@uw.edu>; Simon Pieters <zcorpan@gmail.com>; public-aria-at@w3.org; Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com>; Seth Thompson <s3th.thompson@gmail.com>; Isaac Durazo <isaac@bocoup.com>
Subject: Re: Pilot test - need volunteers

 

Hi Sina!

Chiming in off thread to say hi and introduce myself. My name is Boaz and I work with Simon at Bocoup. 

 

I recognize your name from the MOSS grant I just edited for the p5.js project. Lauren was telling me about your work. I'm really happy to see you on this thread. I didn't realize you were in this CG. I was starting to tell Lauren about the interop testing work we're doing in this project, and have been thinking about different ways to bridge the w3c and p5 communities. I'm so happy to see you here on this list. I should have known you were here.

 

I guess I just wanted to say hi, and that I'm looking forward to collaborating! Sorry for the side chat. I'm sure Simon will respond with answers to your questions.

 

Also, thanks for offering time on this project!

 

Yours in AT Interop!

 

--

Boaz Sender

 

 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 3:37 PM Sina Bahram <sina@sinabahram.com <mailto:sina@sinabahram.com> > wrote:

Sorry for the double-email, but is there an issue where the tests are laid out? Sorry if I’m missing something.

 

Just wanted to look at the things ahead of time.

 

I am willing to cover @jscholes time spent testing with FF/NVDA, and I may be able to test with  Chrome/Jaws, but it would be good to see what this entails, task-wise.

 

 

President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.

Phone: 919-345-3832

https://www.PAC.bz

Twitter: @SinaBahram

Personal Website:  <https://www.sinabahram.com> https://www.sinabahram.com

 

From: Sina Bahram <sina@sinabahram.com <mailto:sina@sinabahram.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Pilot test - need volunteers

 

Another question. Are expected results already defined? If so, what is the process in case we may have comments on what the expected results should be?

 

 

President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.

Phone: 919-345-3832

https://www.PAC.bz

Twitter: @SinaBahram

Personal Website:  <https://www.sinabahram.com> https://www.sinabahram.com

 

From: Terrill Thompson <tft@uw.edu <mailto:tft@uw.edu> > 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:56 PM
To: Simon Pieters <zcorpan@gmail.com <mailto:zcorpan@gmail.com> >
Cc: public-aria-at@w3.org <mailto:public-aria-at@w3.org> ; Matt King <a11ythinker@gmail.com <mailto:a11ythinker@gmail.com> >; s3th.thompson@gmail.com <mailto:s3th.thompson@gmail.com> ; Isaac Durazo <isaac@bocoup.com <mailto:isaac@bocoup.com> >
Subject: Re: Pilot test - need volunteers

 

Hi All, 

 

Sorry I've been missing in action - a little over my head with commitments at the UW. Are you wanting to keep testing within this group for now, or are you open to recruiting volunteers from the outside? 

 

Terrill 


--- 
Terrill Thompson
Manager, IT Accessibility Team 
UW-IT Accessible Technology Services
University of Washington
tft@uw.edu <mailto:tft@uw.edu> 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM Simon Pieters <zcorpan@gmail.com <mailto:zcorpan@gmail.com> > wrote:

Correcting an error with the date...

 

Den ons 22 apr. 2020 kl 23:47 skrev Simon Pieters <zcorpan@gmail.com <mailto:zcorpan@gmail.com> >:

Hi aria-at folks!

 

Per our development plan <https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Test-Authorship-and-Test-Runner-Development-Plan#work-stream-22-write-tests-and-run-pilot-before-end-of-development-phase> , we want to run a pilot test with 6 AT/browser combinations during the week of May 4-8.

 

Sorry, this should say May 11-15.

 

 The goal is to run through 3 test plans and produce test results, so we know that it works before we start the first complete test cycle.


 

If you are able to run tests (i.e., you know how to use the relevant screen reader), it would be great if you could contribute time that week for this.

 

The AT/browser combinations (though see issue 116 <https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/116> ) are:

* JAWS/Chrome
* JAWS/Firefox
* NVDA/Chrome
* NVDA/Firefox
* macOS VoiceOver/Chrome
* macOS VoiceOver/Safari

If 6 people run tests, we estimate it will take around 6-8 hours per person. If 12 people run tests it will be 3-4 hours instead. :-)

 

Please use issue <https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/162>  162 to volunteer.

 

Thanks!

-- 

Simon Pieters

https://bocoup.com/




 

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Simon Pieters

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