Re: Argumentation Schema

I think some examples could be helpful in understanding here.

Is Quote intended to be a subtype of CreativeWork?

Are AgreeQuote & DisagreeQuote really necessary.  Would a single type
(named *QualifiedQuote* ?) with a boolean property *agree* not be simpler?

Definitely need some examples to understand what is intended by
*SchemeAplication*. “Specifies a relation between a subject and object”
could be a generic description of RDF.


There is also already a proposal for a *Quotation* type which is subject of
a longstanding issue on GitHub (#271
<https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/271>) and a pending example
Quotation <http://pending.webschemas.org/Quotation>.  This has a broader
definition that will cover spoken as well as written quotes.  There is also
a discussion in that thread as to the benefits of using *Quote* or
*Quotation*.  We should not lose sight of the needs in that thread as well
as what is being discussed/proposed here.

~Richard
Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
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On 13 January 2017 at 02:24, Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Schema.org Community Group,
> Argumentation Community Group,
>
> *Quote* — A quotation.
> itemQuoted: *CreativeWork* <http://schema.org/CreativeWork> or URL
> quote: *Text* <http://schema.org/Text>
>
> *AgreeQuote* — Extends *Quote*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/>. A quotation which
> is agreed with.
> rationale: *Text* <http://schema.org/Text> or *SchemeApplication*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/> or *ItemList*
> <https://schema.org/ItemList>
>
> *DisagreeQuote* — Extends *Quote*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/>. A quotation which
> is disagreed with.
> rationale: *Text* <http://schema.org/Text> or *SchemeApplication*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/> or *ItemList*
> <https://schema.org/ItemList>
>
> *SchemeApplication* — Specifies a relation between a subject and object.
> subject: *Text* <http://schema.org/Text> or *Quote*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/> or
> *SchemeApplication* <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/>
> or *ItemList* <https://schema.org/ItemList> or URI
> object: *Text* <http://schema.org/Text> or *Quote*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/> or
> *SchemeApplication* <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/>
> or *ItemList* <https://schema.org/ItemList> or URI
>
> *CustomSchemeApplication* — Extends *SchemeApplication*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schema/>.
> relation: URI
>
> https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/schemas/
>
> Best regards,
> Adam Sobieski
> *http://www.phoster.com/contents/* <http://www.phoster.com/contents/>
> *https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/>
> *https://www.w3.org/community/collaboration/*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/collaboration/>
>
> *From:* Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* ‎Thursday‎, ‎January‎ ‎12‎, ‎2017 ‎6‎:‎00‎ ‎PM
> *To:* public-schemaorg@w3.org, public-argumentation@w3.org
>
> Schema.org Community Group,
> Argumentation Community Group,
>
> Here are some initial thoughts with regard to argumentation schema.
> Feedback and comments are welcomed toward the new schema and toward a
> specification document, an Argumentation Community Group Report.
>
> *Quote*: text from a document at a URL
>   itemQuoted: Thing or URL
> ​  quote: Text
>
> *AgreeQuote*: extends Quote; text from a document at a URL which is
> agreed with, includes text rationale for agreement
>   rationale: Text
>
> *DisagreeQuote*: extends Quote; text from a document at a URL which is
> disagreed with, includes text rationale for disagreement
>   rationale: Text
>
> “Text or Quote”: document text or text from a document at a URL (maps with
> AIF2 Statement)
> “Text or Quote or SchemeApplication”: (maps with AIF2 Node)
>
> *SchemeApplication*: Relates two nodes (maps with AIF2 SchemeApplication)
>   subject: Text or Quote or SchemeApplication or URI
>   object: Text or Quote or SchemeApplication or URI
>
> *CustomSchemeApplication*: (extends SchemeApplication)
>   relation: URI
>
>
> Best regards,
> Adam Sobieski
> *http://www.phoster.com/contents/* <http://www.phoster.com/contents/>
> *https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/argumentation/>
> *https://www.w3.org/community/collaboration/*
> <https://www.w3.org/community/collaboration/>
>
>