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Re: Proposal to add ARCHON Number as a Wikidata property

From: Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:44:53 +0000
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Cc: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>, public-architypes <public-architypes@w3.org>
To: Jane Stevenson <jane.stevenson@jisc.ac.uk>
I have to admit that I can’t see any relation between ISIL (assigned by the BL in the UK, other orgs internationally) and ARCHON (assigned by TNA, UK only I think?). 

Wikidata already supports the ISIL property https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P791

Obviously both ISIL and ARCHON IDs could be added to web pages using the pattern Richard described

Owen

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> On 20 Feb 2017, at 12:19, Jane Stevenson <jane.stevenson@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> That certainly looks useful.
> 
> I would like a definite view on the relationships of an ISIL to an Archon…something I never managed to ascertain when I tried a few years ago. We only have one ISIL code used on the Hub (instead of an Archon code), but many places have both. 
> 
> e.g. Glasgow School of Art: GB-StGlSA / GB-1694. 
> 
> In the Archives Portal Europe I’ve ended up saying the Archon is an ISIL code (I think France did that too) because otherwise APE wouldn’t use the Archon code for the identifier and would make up a random one, which makes no sense at all. 
> 
> …anyway, maybe I’m going off topic….
> 
> cheers,
> Jane. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 16:31, Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes  tangentially relevant.
>> 
>> Regardless of if [hopefully] the Wikidata proposal is accepted, this kind of id could be added to the description of the Archive with the upcoming enhancement to the Schema:identifier property in the next release which enables the description of general identifiers for any thing.
>> 
>> “name”: “London Metropolitan Archives: City of London”,
>> ”identifier”: {
>>    “@type”: “PropertyValue”,
>>    “propertyID”: “ARCHON”,
>>    “propertyValue”: “74”
>>  }
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Wallis
>> Founder, Data Liberate
>> http://dataliberate.com
>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
>> Twitter: @rjw
>> 
>> On 16 February 2017 at 15:57, Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com> wrote:
>> Only tangentially relevant perhaps, but I thought this proposal was interesting https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ARCHON_number
>> 
>> I don’t know if making a schema.org ‘sameAs’ assertion to wikidata is of interest to archives, but if this proposal is approved it could make that easier to do…
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Owen Stephens
>> Owen Stephens Consulting
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>> Email: owen@ostephens.com
>> Telephone: 0121 288 6936
>> 
>> 
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