Re: Machine Learning Workshop overview and talk update

> Janina Sajka <mailto:janina@rednote.net>
> Thursday 2 July 2020 19:05
> I like it. Short, sweet, and to the point.
>
> Hmmm, maybe not "sweet," but ...

Great - I'll submit it and then we can argue over who gets to give the 
talk *grin.

Thanks

Josh
>
> Best,
>
> Janina
>
> Joshue O Connor <mailto:joconnor@w3.org>
> Thursday 2 July 2020 17:47
> Sorry, for top post. I like it!! I'm also clocking out right now and 
> will be off tomorrow, so feel free to edit wiki as needed.
>
> If we were to suggest a talk in the context of ML. We could state 
> something like:
>
> <josh suggested edits>
>
> Suggested Talk Title:
> Machine Learning: Where is the accessibility nexus for toolkits and 
> the frameworks?
>
> Suggested/Overview
> Do toolkit and framework developers have any assertions they're ready 
> to make about accessibility in their
> tools/frameworks? Do they conform to ATAG 2.0 for example? Do the 
> produce accessible output? Perhaps even more importantly, can a person 
> with a disability use these toolkits and frameworks?
>
> How can machine learning support these goals?
> </josh suggested edits>
>
> That may get us in the door, and facilitate some interesting 
> discussion, thoughts?
>
> If we like this idea I could submit it as a talk proposal?
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh
>
> Janina Sajka <mailto:janina@rednote.net>
> Thursday 2 July 2020 17:13
> Hi, Josh:
>
> I want to suggest a somewhat different, highly focussed approach.
> Looking at the conference workshop announcement:
>
> https://www.w3.org/2020/06/machine-learning-workshop/
>
> The goal is "to bring together providers of machine learning toolkits
> and framework providers with Web platform practitioners."
>
> I would take you or Jason as the latter, the web platform practitioner.
>
>
> So, the applications you outline would be created using the output of
> the other two: the toolkits and the frameworks?
>
> I would like us to bluntly ask whether the toolkit and framework people
> have any assertions they're ready to make about accessibility in their
> tools/frameworks. Do they conform to ATAG 2.0? Do the produce accessible
> output? Perhaps even more importantly, can a pwd "use your toolkit and
> framework?"
>
> Does this make any sense?
>
>
> PS: Also check out:
>
> https://www.wired.com/story/new-startup-no-code-no-problem/
>
> Joshue O Connor <mailto:joconnor@w3.org>
> Thursday 2 July 2020 12:08
> Hi Janina, Jason and all,
>
> As per my action yesterday - I've added to the ML workshop document. [1]
>
> Looking at the workshop  outline  they are asking for people to give a 
> talk, and submission deadline is tomorrow if we want to do submit a 
> proposal. At this stage it would only need to be a paragraph, and we 
> would have till the end of July to submit the recorded talk. The 
> question is, what is the APA angle?
>
> This draft paper is really just me riffing on the subject and if there 
> are other perspectives then we should try to capture those today. I do 
> think the questions raised are useful, but some seem over taken by 
> events, as there are already implementations of ML in image 
> recognition and automated testing. I've also touched on the issue of 
> bias, which is very important.
>
> Do we want to give a talk to ask the questions we outline on the wiki 
> or talk about something else - if so what do we want to say and who 
> should give it?
>
> I'm kinda looking at you or Jason for this *grin, but happy to discuss 
> me doing it if I'm clearer on the angle. Tbh, I'm not totally sure at 
> this point and have taken it as far as I can.
>
> I feel it needs a clearer focus, so I'm happy to hear from others.
>
> Josh
>
> [1] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/MLWorkshop2020
>


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