- From: Gottfried Zimmermann \(Lists\) <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>
- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:47:03 +0200
- To: "'W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures'" <public-apa@w3.org>
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Best regards,
Gottfried
PS: It looks like we missed to record the two review actions for IAN.
Michael, can you add them later?
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Prof. Dr. Gottfried Zimmermann
Mobile User Interaction
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
05 Sep 2018
Attendees
Present
janina, Léonie, (tink), Irfan_Ali, Becka11y,
jonny-james, Chris_, MichaelC, gottfried,
Joanmarie_Diggs, IanPouncey, JF
Regrets
Chris, Leonie
Chair
janina
Scribe
gottfried
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
2. [4]TPAC 2018
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018
3. [5]CSS Update
4. [6]new on TR
http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
5. [7]Actions Checkin (Specs)
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
6. [8]new on TR
http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
7. [9]Other Business
* [10]Summary of Action Items
* [11]Summary of Resolutions
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<scribe> scribe: gottfried
Agenda Review & Announcements
TPAC 2018 [12]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018
[12] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2018
Janina: Time with web platforms earlier.
... Working on setting up poersonalization task force.
<scribe> ... New drafts are in the pipeline.
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: Proposal for math input.
CSS Update
Ian: Session in CSS wg meeting for accessibility?
... Useful would be call for people to get involved in the CSS
tf.
... Could be 1 or 1.5 hours with the wg.
Janina: Yes, we should have a conversation with CSS and APA.
Ian: Number of CSS tf still pretty small. Making progress.
... Maybe sit down over lunch with people from CSS wg.
Janina: Better APA session than lunch: lunch can be noisy.
... Analysis would be useful: how many things have we raised?
How many have got a response of any kind?
... What are the longer outstanding issues?
John: I can put out a call for volunteers. What skills are you
looking for?
... There is a real lack of good documentation.
Ian: Email was sent earlier this year.
... Basic is going through CSS modules, identifying a11y
concerns.
John: Will try to find people internally.
Ian: Invite Rossen and Chris Lilley?
Michael: Rossen is out of scope.
Ian: Could somebody be co-facilitator?
... Will reach out to Chris and Alan.
... Hope that we can meet them at TPAC.
... Do we have time in the APA agenda?
Janina: Yes.
Ian: Better off than last year, but still some way to go.
Janina: Can you pull together a summary where we are?
Ian: Yes.
Janina: If soon, might help to get people into the conversation
even before TPAC.
... Will look at the Sapporo minutes.
<MichaelC> Sapporo meeting page
<MichaelC>
[13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA
[13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA
Janina: Lot of discussion about navigation in that meeting.
<MichaelC> Sapporo day 1:
[14]https://www.w3.org/2015/10/29-apa-minutes
[14] https://www.w3.org/2015/10/29-apa-minutes
<MichaelC> Sapporo day 2:
[15]https://www.w3.org/2015/10/30-apa-minutes
[15] https://www.w3.org/2015/10/30-apa-minutes
Michael: Thu has a CSS topic.
Janina: Might have been Fri morning in Sapporo.
Michael: We failed to get a header in the minutes.
Ian: We have a new person:
<IanPouncey> Amy Carney
new on TR [16]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
Actions Checkin (Specs)
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
action-2177?
<trackbot> action-2177 -- Jason White to Review web
authentication in response to wide review request -- due
2018-08-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2177
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2177
action-2176?
<trackbot> action-2176 -- Janina Sajka to Review web
authentication in response to wide review request -- due
2018-08-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2176
[19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2176
Janina: still pending
action-2174?
<trackbot> action-2174 -- Janina Sajka to Draft responses to
page visibility level 2 actions -- due 2018-08-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2174
[20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2174
action-2170?
<trackbot> action-2170 -- Ian Pouncey to Review css fonts
module level 4 -- due 2018-05-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2170
[21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2170
Ian: I need to raise an issue with max. font sizes on this.
Michael: So keep this open.
action-2163?
<trackbot> action-2163 -- Ian Pouncey to Manage review of css
basic user interface module level 4 -- due 2018-01-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [22]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2163
[22] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2163
Ian: I have reviewed and concur with Leonie's points.
... Let's finish the investigation on that.
Michael: Talking about level 3?
... Still need to look at level 4 issues.
action-2150?
<trackbot> action-2150 -- Janina Sajka to Review a sample of
specifications to analyse their security and privacy sections.
-- due 2017-10-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2150
[23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2150
Janina: Should do this before TPAC.
action-2132?
<trackbot> action-2132 -- Michael Cooper to Make a fuss about
algorithmic specs -- due 2017-05-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2132
[24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2132
Michael: I have done some fuss about it - not sure what more to
do.
Janina: Maybe share with horizontal review groups?
... Example of why we need some help to better support our
review work.
... Assume that they have the same issue.
Michael: Could say: Prioritize developers over other readers?
Janina: They should explain what they do in clear technical
English, not just in specification.
<MichaelC> close action-2132
<trackbot> Closed action-2132.
Michael: Action is ongoing through horizontal work.
action-2117?
<trackbot> action-2117 -- Janina Sajka to Check our checklist
list against ISO/IEC 30071-1 -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [25]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2117
[25] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2117
Gottfried: This standard is now under FDIS vote. It is about
organizations making their processes so that their products
will be accessible.
<MichaelC> close action-2117
<trackbot> Closed action-2117.
Janina: I think we can drop it.
action-2071?
<trackbot> action-2071 -- Shane McCarron to Notify apa and aria
editors and possibly wai-ig about adding A11Y checking to the
respec linting capability -- due 2016-07-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2071
[26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2071
<MichaelC> close action-2071
<trackbot> Closed action-2071.
action-2613?
<trackbot> Sorry, but action-2613 does not exist.
<MichaelC> close action-1613
<trackbot> Closed action-1613.
action-1613?
<trackbot> action-1613 -- Michael Cooper to Send starter
discussion to pf editors about w3c echidna -- due 2015-04-08 --
CLOSED
<trackbot> [27]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1613
[27] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1613
Michael: Too much time needed.
<MichaelC> close action-1499
<trackbot> Closed action-1499.
action-1499?
<trackbot> action-1499 -- Michael Cooper to Document process to
ensure edits across specs kept in sync via action trading --
due 2014-08-27 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1499
[28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1499
action-1438?
<trackbot> action-1438 -- Michael Cooper to Set up auto publish
to GH Pages for editors' drafts [29]https://pages.github.com --
due 2014-10-15 -- OPEN
[29] https://pages.github.com/
<trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1438
[30] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1438
Michael: Did it
<MichaelC> close action-1438
<trackbot> Closed action-1438.
action-1176?
<trackbot> action-1176 -- Michael Cooper to Look into a bot to
count how busy various mailing lists are, so we can determine
which groups are being active and need a closer look -- due
2013-03-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [31]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1176
[31] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1176
Janina: Could be useful, especially for community group.
<MichaelC> close action-1120
<trackbot> Closed action-1120.
action-1120?
<trackbot> action-1120 -- Michael Cooper to Get spec sanity
check generator to handle required states and properties, not
just supported, and ideally same for UML model -- due
2012-11-01 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1120
[32] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1120
action-934?
<trackbot> action-934 -- Michael Cooper to Create a PFWG Gantt
chart for ARIA 1.0, ARIA 1.1, Indie UI -- due 2012-02-17 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/934
[33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/934
<MichaelC> close action-934
<trackbot> Closed action-934.
action-930?
<trackbot> action-930 -- Janina Sajka to Get PFWG to work on
requirements for the various CSS positioning modules -- due
2012-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [34]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/930
[34] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/930
Michael: OBE?
Ian: It is subsumed.
... by general work on implications on positioning.
action-929?
<trackbot> action-929 -- Janina Sajka to Get PF to identify
user preferences against which CSS might want to run media
queries for personalization -- due 2012-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [35]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/929
[35] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/929
<MichaelC> close action-930
<trackbot> Closed action-930.
<MichaelC> close action-929
<trackbot> Closed action-929.
action-788?
<trackbot> action-788 -- Michael Cooper to tracker forms (new
action and new issue) should be made accessible; label form
elements -- due 2012-03-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [36]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/788
[36] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/788
<MichaelC> close action-309
<trackbot> Closed action-309.
action-309?
<trackbot> action-309 -- Michael Cooper to Create an automated
index of meeting minutes, in hopes search engines can therefore
find an make searchable -- due 2012-04-01 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [37]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/309
[37] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/309
Janina: Now that are minutes are public, we can just use
Google.
... Talking about RQTF. Knowledge domain is interesting.
... Voice map expressions.
... CAPTCHA doc is moving forward.
... Working on comments. Expecting another publication before
tpac.
new on TR [38]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[38] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
<MichaelC> [39]CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 4
[39] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-cascade-4/
Michael: We have a note on cascading level 3. Do we need to
review level 4?
Ian: I can review if needed.
<MichaelC> [40]CSS Display Module Level 3
[40] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-display-3/
Michael: Went to CR at end of Aug. Urgent now if we have
comments.
Ian: Will review.
Other Business
Janina: Adjourned.
... Back next week.
rsagent, draft minutes
Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
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