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Re: Draft APA minutes of 2018-01-10

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:43:25 -0600
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxyDHQn0JNQbuo9GD1xK8_wf71schNMgKQf+d59QpM5cNQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists)" <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>
Cc: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Thanks for this Gottfried.

I note that some attendees on the call forgot to do their Present+, thus
suggesting via the minutes that there was only 1 person present for the
call. Not a huge issue, but a friendly reminder that this is something you
should be doing whenever you enter the IRC channel... (not just for this
WG, but all W3C calls where Zakim is present).

JF

On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Gottfried Zimmermann (Lists) <
zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com> wrote:

> HTML format: https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-apa-minutes.html
> Text format: See bottom of this message.
>
> Summary of Action Items
> [NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation Extensions for Web
> Publications - due 6 months
>
> Best regards,
> Gottfried
> ___________________________________________________
>
>  Prof. Dr. Gottfried Zimmermann
> Mobile User Interaction
> ___________________________________________________
>
>    [1]W3C
>
>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>
>      Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
>
> 10 Jan 2018
>
>    [2]Agenda
>
>       [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Jan/
> 0011.html
>
> Attendees
>
>    Present
>           gottfried
>
>    Regrets
>           Léonie, JF
>
>    Chair
>           SV_MEETING_CHAIR
>
>    Scribe
>           gottfried
>
> Contents
>
>      * [3]Topics
>          1. [4]preview agenda with items from two minutes
>          2. [5]CSS A11y TF
>          3. [6]Actions Checkin (Specs)
>             https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
>          4. [7]new on TR
>             http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
>          5. [8]APA and W3C Verticals -- Leonie
>          6. [9]Charter Renewal
>      * [10]Summary of Action Items
>      * [11]Summary of Resolutions
>      __________________________________________________________
>
> preview agenda with items from two minutes
>
>    <scribe> scribe: gottfried
>
> CSS A11y TF
>
>    Michael: Neither Ian nor Janina are here - nothing to discuss.
>
> Actions Checkin (Specs)
> [12]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
>
>      [12] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
>
>    action-2123?
>
>    <trackbot> action-2123 -- Ted Drake to Triage changelog of dom
>    4.1
>    [13]https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 -
>    note stuff on mutation -- due 2017-04-19 -- OPEN
>
>      [13] https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4
>
>    <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123
>
>      [14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123
>
>    Ted: Started - hope to finish soon.
>
>    <MichaelC> action-2123 due 2 weeks
>
>    <trackbot> Set action-2123 Triage changelog of dom 4.1
>    [15]https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 -
>    note stuff on mutation due date to 2018-01-24.
>
>      [15] https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4
>
>    action-2152?
>
>    <trackbot> action-2152 -- Gottfried Zimmermann to Review ttml
>    profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1
>    [16]https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ -- due 2017-11-15 --
>    PENDINGREVIEW
>
>      [16] https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/
>
>    <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152
>
>      [17] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2152
>
>    Michael: I need to ping Janina on that.
>
>    action-2052?
>
>    <trackbot> action-2052 -- Becky Gibson to Review
>    [18]https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ shadow dom -- due
>    2017-02-01 -- OPEN
>
>      [18] https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/
>
>    <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052
>
>      [19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052
>
>    <MichaelC> action-2052 due 4 weeks
>
>    <trackbot> Set action-2052 Review
>    [20]https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ shadow dom due date to
>    2018-02-07.
>
>      [20] https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/
>
> new on TR [21]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
>
>      [21] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
>
>    Michael: Skipping CSS specs - wait until Ian is here.
>
>    <MichaelC> [22]Packaged Web Publications
>
>      [22] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwpub/
>
>    Michael: We said we don't need review for packaging format. So
>    here neither?
>
>    Janina: Don't need to review this.
>
>    Michael: HTML 5.3 - wait for Leonie
>
>    <MichaelC> [23]ODRL Information Model 2.2
>
>      [23] https://www.w3.org/TR/odrl-model/
>
>    Janina: Used for DAISY already. Don't expect any issues.
>    ... Has been used since the late 90s.
>    ... We managed to settle on how to do DRM if people want
>
>    Michael: Previously, we said we need to make sure DPUB knows
>    about this.
>    ... Marking as not needed.
>
>    <MichaelC> [24]Web Annotation Extensions for Web Publications
>
>      [24] https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/
>
>    Michael: They don't take over annotations - just extending for
>    publishing
>    ... Web Annotation Data Model went to REC
>
>    Janina: I trust publishing. But wouldn't hurt to look at it at
>    some point - too much right now.
>    ... Defer 6 months
>
>    <MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation
>    Extensions for Web Publications - due 6 months
>
>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2165 - Ping review of web annotation
>    extensions for web publications [on Michael Cooper - due
>    2018-07-10].
>
>    <MichaelC> action-2165: [25]https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/
>
>      [25] https://www.w3.org/TR/wpub-ann/
>
>    <trackbot> Notes added to action-2165 Ping review of web
>    annotation extensions for web publications.
>
>    <MichaelC> action-2165:
>    [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_Extensions_f
>    or_Web_Publications
>
>      [26]
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Annotation_
> Extensions_for_Web_Publicatio
> ns
>
>    <trackbot> Notes added to action-2165 Ping review of web
>    annotation extensions for web publications.
>
> APA and W3C Verticals -- Leonie
>
>    Janina: Leonie is going to lead this discussion. Talking about
>    stacks and people to become involved in.
>
>    Michael: Leonie was interested in WebVR, CSS (we already have a
>    TF for that)
>    ... We might want to set up user requirements files for these
>    verticals.
>
>    Janina: Authenticaion, payment, automotive, media
>    ... Media is probably going to work via publishing - Community
>    Group
>
>    Michael: Should we add AI to the list?
>
>    Janina: List as candidate in new charter draft?
>    ... Idea would be interop across platforms.
>
>    Michael: Address a11y problems in AI applications.
>
>    Janina: And Web of Things
>
>    Michael: Graphics, and more in relation with other groups, e.g.
>    i18n
>    ... architecture, a11y technical coordination
>    ... We should play a role that multiple guidelines are aligned
>    ... APA might want to become more active on this
>
>    Janina: We have a number of APA people who are active in WCAG
>    ... So we should be able to do that.
>
>    Michael: Topic personalization needs to be monitored and
>    coordinated with other topics
>    ... Make sure we are all working on a common solution
>
>    Becky: Also AR?
>
>    Michael: I believe there is or was a workshop on it
>    ... Worth tracking
>
>    Janina: Probably being folded into VR
>
>    Michael: Could be, but AR has additional challenges of
>    interfering with the real world.
>
>    Gottfried: Smart cities & smart homes
>
>    Michael: Those are probably subcategories
>    ... In automotive it is about Web of Things in a car.
>    ... Janina, what else did you want to talk about here?
>    ... Anybody interested in being involved in these topics?
>
>    Becky: smart cities
>
>    Gottfried: e-learning - i am involved in the CG
>
>    Michael: Overlaps a bit with publishing
>    ... E-learning is the prime reason why publishing is interested
>    in a11y
>
>    Gottfried: Also interested in Web of Things, smarthomes, smart
>    cities - but depends on time
>
>    Michael: People can help to build groups and draw other people
>    in
>
>    Becky: Put me down for AR - but limited time
>
>    Michael: Ian on CSS
>
>    Janina: Me on payments
>
>    Ted: Me on payments also
>
>    Michael: For media: John and Janina
>    ... Automotive: Janina
>    ... Publishing: Gottfried in e-Learning, but we might want
>    another driver for publishing
>
>    Becky: I have experience on Readium
>
>    Janina: Jason for authentication
>
>    Michael: Judy for AI?
>
>    Janina: Okay
>    ... SVG is active again
>
>    Michael: Need a coordination session for graphics
>
>    Janina: Suggest Amelia
>
>    Michael: Now i have a name for each of the verticals.
>
> Charter Renewal
>
>    Janina: Say something about verticals. Some will be active,
>    some be pending.
>    ... Other than that, i don't think we want to change anything
>    else.
>    ... Spec reviews will still be our main work.
>
>    Michael: Structure so that we don't need to deliver on all
>    verticals.
>
>    Janina: Yes, that would be too ambitious.
>
>    Michael: Some might need to be refined.
>    ... Spec review documents - not sure
>
>    Janina: A11y impact statements should be included.
>
>    Michael: Need to review our dependencies
>    ... Move XTECH
>
>    Janina: Review consensus and review policy. But don't think we
>    need to change anything.
>
>    Michael: No major issues yet - but may be due to small group
>    ... Some people say cfc must be open for a week, other only 48
>    hours
>    ... Compromise might be that it should be in the range of 48h -
>    1 week
>
>    Janina: Usually we make the cfc for 48 hours, even though the
>    date may be a week away
>
>    Michael: In WCAG, sometimes people may record objections, but
>    the chair may overrule.
>    ... APA policy allows for that as well, but we are more
>    cautious.
>    ... Need to think about the license for our publications.
>    ... Document license
>    ... Software & document license for code samples.
>    ... If we only do non-normative things, we may not need a hard
>    copyright
>    ... But we have to state our license preference in the charter
>
>    Janina: Need to discuss this and come to an agreement
>
>    Michael: My personal opinion is that non-normative things
>    should be under software & doc license. But normative things
>    should be under doc license.
>    ... Half-completed draft by me
>
>    Becky: Link to it?
>
>    Michael: The link is in the charter.
>    ... Later content is in the checklist
>    ... Need to do a redirect
>    ... Emphasis on verticals is a new thing for the charter
>
>    Janina: It will be useful to get people involved
>    ... We got good support by HTML5 on user a11y requirements
>    ... Publishing needs - non-temporal document as master source
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>    [NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of Web Annotation
>    Extensions for Web Publications - due 6 months
>
> Summary of Resolutions
>
>    [End of minutes]
>      __________________________________________________________
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-- 
John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems Inc.
john.foliot@deque.com

Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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