- From: Michiel Bijl <michiel@agosto.nl>
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:00:45 +0100
- To: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <99AB0004-7767-4B9D-B61C-C17D3D4677AF@agosto.nl>
Minutes for today’s meeting can be found at his URL or as text below: https://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html
—Michiel
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
26 Oct 2016
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Oct/0032.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-irc
Attendees
Present
Janina, Rich-Schwerdtfeger, MichielBijl, MichaelC,
Katie_Haritos-Shea, LJWatson, Ted
Regrets
Chair
Janina
Scribe
MichielBijl
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]preview agenda with items from two minutes
2. [6]agenda review
3. [7]next and future meetings
4. [8]Actions Checkin (Specs)
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
5. [9]new on TR
http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
6. [10]APA's Accessibility Checklist
* [11]Summary of Action Items
* [12]Summary of Resolutions
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preview agenda with items from two minutes
<scribe> scribe: MichielBijl
agenda review
JS: More discussion on survey form to share with spec writers
... where we would think they there will be accessibility
concerns
... output from discussions last couple years
websec (?) has something similar
It’ll stay on the agenda till finished.
Anyone with anything to add?
Any news?
LW: Looks like HTML 5.1 will get directors approval this week
and will be published next week.
next and future meetings
<janina> ProposaL: APA will NOT meet on 23 November and 21 & 28
December.
<janina> Meetings in 2017 will begin 4 January.
JS: This is standard practice
Would resume on 4th of January
Anyone with have a problem with that calendar?
Okay, hearing none lets move on.
KHS: Yeah, no problem
Actions Checkin (Specs)
[13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
[13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
JS: Michael, action!
action 297(?)
MC: was a timeline on it, if you’re busy it’s okay
JS: There is something, want to re-read the whole thing
<LJWatson> action-2097?
<trackbot> action-2097 -- Janina Sajka to Re-review
[14]https://www.w3.org/tr/webrtc/ webrtc 1.0: real-time
communication between browsers -- due 2016-10-26 -- OPEN
[14] https://www.w3.org/tr/webrtc/
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2097
[15] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2097
action-2096
<trackbot> action-2096 -- Ted Drake to Check how micropub
comments have been disposed -- due 2016-10-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2096
[16] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2096
MC: Should we leave Ted’s?
He just joined!
TD: Went through the comments
Looked like what we were asking for
Have to see if any action was taking on it
It looks good
Looks reasonable
Wondering what the action is
Not sure what the conflict is
<Ted__>
[17]https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issue
s/2#issuecomment-236712535
[17] https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/2#issuecomment-236712535
MC: Would be useful to see if understanding from comment is
same as understanding from comment
TD: Kind of the conflict going on is with parsing
Didn’t seem reasonable
*explains use case*
I’m interested in Micro pub
Don’t mind looking through the conte t
MC: Will look at it next week
<MichaelC> action-2091?
<trackbot> action-2091 -- Janina Sajka to Review web animations
[18]https://www.w3.org/tr/web-animations-1/ -- due 2016-10-26
-- OPEN
[18] https://www.w3.org/tr/web-animations-1/
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2091
[19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2091
MC: We need to recruit *laughs*
Let’s put on planning agenda for next week
action-2090
<trackbot> action-2090 -- Janina Sajka to Review portable web
publications use cases and requirements
[20]https://www.w3.org/tr/pwp-ucr/ -- due 2016-10-26 -- OPEN
[20] https://www.w3.org/tr/pwp-ucr/
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2090
[21] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2090
JS: That was nice
It’s a requirements document, it’s very thorough.
Web accessibility is well represented
MC: Will put in Wiki
We can close this action
<MichaelC> close action-2090
<trackbot> Closed action-2090.
action-2086
<trackbot> action-2086 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Review
[22]https://www.w3.org/tr/input-events/ input events -- due
2016-09-28 -- OPEN
[22] https://www.w3.org/tr/input-events/
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2086
[23] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2086
RS: Haven’t done that yet
MC: Is there a timeline on this?
No there isn’t a special timeline
RS: I’ll try to do that
action-2081
<trackbot> action-2081 -- Michael Cooper to See if web app
manifest comments are dealt with
[24]https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/web_app_manifest -- due
2016-08-17 -- OPEN
[24] https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/web_app_manifest
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2081
[25] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2081
MC: Getting more stale
I believe…
I believe…
action-2048
<trackbot> action-2048 -- John Foliot to Review
[26]https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml2/ timed text markup language 2
(ttml2) -- due 2016-10-06 -- OPEN
[26] https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml2/
<trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2048
[27] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2048
MC: We’ll leave that open
JS: A little longer, but not a lot longer, will need to read
that too
actio-2029
action-2029
<trackbot> action-2029 -- John Foliot to Review discovery &
registration of multimodal modality components: state handling
[28]https://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/ -- due 2016-10-20
-- OPEN
[28] https://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2029
[29] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2029
MC: Leave open?
JS: yeah
action-2052
<trackbot> action-2052 -- Shane McCarron to Review
[30]https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ shadow dom -- due
2016-09-28 -- OPEN
[30] https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052
[31] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2052
MC: Is this urgent?
JS: Don’t recall status
MC: Re-assigned from Cynthia
Can let it sit
JS: Okay
action-2069
<trackbot> action-2069 -- Michael Cooper to Follow up on
[32]http://www.w3.org/tr/media-source/ media source extensions
-- due 2016-08-04 -- OPEN
[32] http://www.w3.org/tr/media-source/
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2069
[33] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2069
MC: leave it
action-2070
<trackbot> action-2070 -- Lisa Seeman to Pick up the thread
with [34]https://www.w3.org/tr/css-counter-styles-3/ css
counter styles level 3 on needing reply to their response to us
-- due 2016-07-20 -- OPEN
[34] https://www.w3.org/tr/css-counter-styles-3/
<trackbot> [35]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2070
[35] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2070
JS: Will ping her
Have updated it
new on TR [36]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[36] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
MC: There are 14!
Need to reply to ambient light
Same for audio devices
CSS Scroll Snap Module level 1
<MichaelC> [37]CSS Scroll Snap Module Level 1
[37] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-scroll-snap-1/
We decided we wanted to have the CSS TF to look at it
It has gone to REC, but haven’t looked
JS: We need to recruit…
MC: Not sure we checked
Should we create an action?
<MichaelC> ACTION: janina to get CSS Scroll Snap Module Level 1
into CSS TF radar [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action01]
[38] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2098 - Get css scroll snap module
level 1 into css tf radar [on Janina Sajka - due 2016-11-02].
<MichaelC> action-2098:
[39]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Scroll_Snap_Module_Leve
l_1
[39] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Scroll_Snap_Module_Level_1
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2098 Get css scroll snap
module level 1 into css tf radar.
MC: Next one: CSS Table Module Level 3
First public working draft
<MichaelC> [40]CSS Table Module Level 3
[40] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-tables-3/
JS: So we have some time?
Should we assign an action?
MC: There is a big banner that covers a large part of my
screen.
... We’ll defer for now
<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to ping review of CSS Table Module
Level 3 - due 15 Feb [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action02]
[41] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2099 - Ping review of css table
module level 3 [on Michael Cooper - due 2016-02-15].
Generic Sensor API
Media Source Extensions
MC: One of the ones I’m sitting on
Pub sub(?)
<MichaelC> [42]PubSub
[42] https://www.w3.org/TR/pubsub/
First public working draft
MC: Would like Shane to do it
As in, Shane knows how to translate
JS: Extended time period but put on Shane
MC: 2-3 months?
<MichaelC> ACTION: shane to review PubSub
[43]https://www.w3.org/TR/pubsub/ - due 3 months [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action03]
[43] https://www.w3.org/TR/pubsub/
[44] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2100 - Review pubsub
[45]https://www.w3.org/tr/pubsub/ [on Shane McCarron - due
2017-01-26].
[45] https://www.w3.org/tr/pubsub/
JS: 3 months is fine
Service Workers 1
JS: Think Léonie can be of help
LW: Possible not actually
Not a spec I have a great deal to do with out the three of us
<MichaelC> [46]Service Workers 1
[46] https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/
JS: So we don’t know who to assign to?
LW: My hunch is that we don’t have to look at it
Will check with other co-chairs
JS: That’s perferct
TD: Not volunteering, but…
Will see a lot of people using it in the coming years
MC: Could give you an action to have someone on your team to
look at it
JS: Lets give Léonie an action and let her do her thing
<MichaelC> ACTION: watson to check with web platform chairs
about a11y implications of service workers
[47]https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/ [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action04]
[47] https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/
[48] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2101 - Check with web platform chairs
about a11y implications of service workers
[49]https://www.w3.org/tr/service-workers-1/ [on Léonie Watson
- due 2016-11-02].
[49] https://www.w3.org/tr/service-workers-1/
LW: Week should be fine, thanks
<MichaelC> action-2101:
[50]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Service_Workers_1
[50] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Service_Workers_1
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2101 Check with web platform
chairs about a11y implications of service workers
[51]https://www.w3.org/tr/service-workers-1/.
[51] https://www.w3.org/tr/service-workers-1/.
MC: Next spec: spacial data on the web best practices
Is a working group note
<MichaelC> [52]Spatial Data on the Web Best Practices
[52] https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-bp/
No working drafts
Guess we can skip this
JS: yeah
Unless anyone objects
MC: Not sure what we did with other spacial specs
Next is…
another note
<MichaelC> [53]Spatial Data on the Web Use Cases & Requirements
[53] https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/
MC: Let’s see if they intend to do something with it
JS: Give it to me, give me two weeks
<MichaelC> ACTION: janina to review Spatial Data on the Web Use
Cases & Requirements [54]https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/ - due 2
weeks [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action05]
[54] https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/
[55] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2102 - Review spatial data on the web
use cases & requirements [56]https://www.w3.org/tr/sdw-ucr/ [on
Janina Sajka - due 2016-11-09].
[56] https://www.w3.org/tr/sdw-ucr/
<MichaelC> action-2102:
[57]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Spatial_Data_on_the_Web_Use
_Cases_%26_Requirements
[57] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Spatial_Data_on_the_Web_Use_Cases_&_Requirements
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2102 Review spatial data on
the web use cases & requirements
[58]https://www.w3.org/tr/sdw-ucr/.
[58] https://www.w3.org/tr/sdw-ucr/.
MC: Next up “Why is this open”
UI events code values
Rich you are reviewing?
<MichaelC> [59]UI Events KeyboardEvent code Values
[59] https://www.w3.org/TR/uievents-code/
RS: Stuck in the review
MC: Does APA care?
RS: Aren’t those the values you assign to keys?
LW: Yeah, like keyCodes
RS: Not sure that’s an issue for us
MC: Has this been updated since 15th of December?
LW: Key values?
RS: Looking at keyevents
LW: They got changed from DOM Level 3 to keyevents
<Rich> [60]https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-uievents-key-20161024/
[60] https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-uievents-key-20161024/
MC: there is a dated URI on TR
Something has not gone right
Dated URI:
<MichaelC> [61]UI Events KeyboardEvent key Values
[61] https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-uievents-key-20161024/
Is APA going to track this?
JS: Think we’re comfortable with what ARIA decides to do with
it.
<MichaelC> [62]Vehicle Signal Server Specification
[62] https://www.w3.org/TR/vehicle-information-service/
“The W3C Vehicle Signal Server Specification defines a
WebSocket based API that enables client applications to GET,
SET, SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE to vehicle signals and data
attributes.”
<MichaelC> ACTION: janina to review
[63]https://www.w3.org/TR/vehicle-information-service/ Vehicle
Signal Server Specification [recorded in
[64]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action06]
[63] https://www.w3.org/TR/vehicle-information-service/
[64] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2103 - Review
[65]https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/ vehicle
signal server specification [on Janina Sajka - due 2016-11-02].
[65] https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/
JS: Think it relates to personalisation
Give it to me
Need some time, how about 16th of November
<MichaelC> action-2103 due 16 Nov
<trackbot> Set action-2103 Review
[66]https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/ vehicle
signal server specification due date to 2016-11-16.
[66] https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/
<MichaelC> action-2103:
[67]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Vehicle_Signal_Server_Speci
fication
[67] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Vehicle_Signal_Server_Specification
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2103 Review
[68]https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/ vehicle
signal server specification.
[68] https://www.w3.org/tr/vehicle-information-service/
MC: That clears TR!
*crowd goes wild*
APA's Accessibility Checklist
JS: Main concern is what we do with our list
What to send to other groups when they’re formed
Question is, is what Michael drafted sufficient, what is
missing?
MC: Don’t think it’s sufficient, so want to know what is
missing.
KHS: Also sent a suggestion on the data format, might be
relevant as well.
JS: I missed that, I’m sorry
KHS: Might have sent that directly to you
There is a requirement for health data
They must be accessible when transferred or viewed
Should meet—I think—WCAG Level A.
JS: So a US law?
... Is this a user requirement, more than a spec req?
KHS: So when I change insurance company, they need to give me
my health record, it’s now digital. Anyone should be able to
look at it, it must be accessible.
JS: Not clear how that affects the data format itself.
LW: Katie do you think this needs a new spec?
KHS: No, think this should be on the accessibility checklist.
<Ryladog_> One example of where there are data file WCAG2 legal
requirements is in the ACA regulations in the US Federal
government for Electronic Health Records (as part of the
Affordable Health Care Act ACA) where there are certification
and test requirements identified. In plain English, the
regulation/rule requires that when patients need to access/use
their EHR via viewing, downloading or transmitting that the
resulting files MUST be WCAG 2 Level A (or AA) confo[CUT]
<Ryladog_> Specifically the Certification Test Procedure says:
The test procedure will evaluate the capability of the EHR
technology to permit patients and their authorized
representative(s) to view the provider’s name and office
contact information and Common MU Data Set using ambulatory EHR
technology; and the admission and discharge dates and
locations, discharge instructions, and reason(s) for
hospitalization, and the Common MU Data Set using inpatient EHR
tech[CUT]
<Ryladog_>
[69]http://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/2014editionehrc
ertificationcriteria_mustage2.pdf
[69] http://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/2014editionehrcertificationcriteria_mustage2.pdf
<Ryladog_> §170.314(e)(1) View, download and transmit
JS: Needs more discussion
<Ryladog_> §170.314(e)(1) View, download and transmit
<Ryladog_>
[70]https://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/170_314e1_for_
final_posting.pdf
[70] https://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/170_314e1_for_final_posting.pdf
<Ryladog_> Test Procedure for §170.314 (e)(1) View, download,
and transmit to a 3rd party with edge protocol testing
<Ryladog_>
[71]https://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/170_314e1_for_
final_posting.pdf
[71] https://www.healthit.gov/sites/default/files/170_314e1_for_final_posting.pdf
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of CSS Table Module Level 3
- due 15 Feb [recorded in
[72]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: janina to get CSS Scroll Snap Module Level 1 into
CSS TF radar [recorded in
[73]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: janina to review
https://www.w3.org/TR/vehicle-information-service/ Vehicle
Signal Server Specification [recorded in
[74]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: janina to review Spatial Data on the Web Use
Cases & Requirements https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/ - due 2
weeks [recorded in
[75]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: shane to review PubSub
https://www.w3.org/TR/pubsub/ - due 3 months [recorded in
[76]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: watson to check with web platform chairs about
a11y implications of service workers
https://www.w3.org/TR/service-workers-1/ [recorded in
[77]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action04]
[72] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action02
[73] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action01
[74] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action06
[75] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action05
[76] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action03
[77] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-apa-minutes.html#action04
Summary of Resolutions
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