- From: Michiel Bijl <michiel@agosto.nl>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 19:06:20 +0100
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Minutes for todays APA telecon can be found as text in this e-mail and at the following URL: http://www.w3.org/2016/01/06-apa-minutes.html <http://www.w3.org/2016/01/06-apa-minutes.html> —Michiel [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 06 Jan 2016 [2]Agenda [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0008.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/01/06-apa-irc Attendees Present Joanmarie_Diggs, JF, Janina, LJWatson, Michiel_Bijl, MichaelC, matt_king, Katie, Haritos-Shea Regrets Rich, Shane Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe MichielBijl Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]preview agenda with items from two minutes 2. [6]APA Housekeeping http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html 3. [7]Draft APA Decision Policy http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy 4. [8]Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open 5. [9]new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 6. [10]Proposed Final Design for W3C Technical Reports http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan /0007.html * [11]Summary of Action Items * [12]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ preview agenda with items from two minutes <scribe> scribe: MichielBijl JS: We've gotten off to a good start this year! JF: Wilco and Marcy will be joining Deque this year! MC: Working on the tracker migration. ... Hopefully migrate tomorrow APA Housekeeping [13]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html [13] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html JS: Expecting some new members (formally) ... Old mail list will bounce ... Propose we keep the Webex title the same (means we can keep the same Webex code) MC: Might split JS: Tracker has higher priority ... Might confuse new members ... If we have to explain this too often we might change it Draft APA Decision Policy [14]http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy [14] http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy JS: Differences n PF we had 48 hours for CfC ... We tried to make that longer ... Second change from PF, applies more to ARIA WG, teleconfrence are important parts of how the group functions LW: If a resolution is proposed on a call, will we expect people to read the minutes for the CfC resolution?? JS: We will make a note of it when we push the minutes ... For this to work it needs to be fair ... Need to make it explicit in the e-mail <Zakim> cyns, you wanted to say it would be good to have a separate email that lists all the cfcs. Don't want to have to dig through minutes. <LJWatson> +1 to Cyns JS: Something like: Not just minutes, also includes CfC <Zakim> JF, you wanted to ask if Zakim could be modified to auto-generate an email with CfC's CS: I don't want to read all the minutes JF: Can it be automated? MC: If you type "resolution:" the scribe script takes action ... Think they're also placed at the bottom of the minutes ... We would need to look into it JF: Yeah I'd love to read all the minutes, I don't get to attend all the calls or can read all the minutes LW: What if we have multiple CfC's in the same minutes? ... That'll make it near to impossible to follow JF: Good point MB: What is the reason for this proposed change? MC: Administrative overhead, but maybe that's the way it needs to be ... It might not be hard to automate it JF: Can we find out? MC: Yes LW: I don't mind volunteering until we have a automated solution JS: Michael, do you want an action for this? MC: Not necessary <MichaelC> [15]PF Resolutions in Tracker https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/resolutions *discussion about dates on the tracker* MC: If we get CfC mails automated, can we get people trained to reply to those automated e-mails? JF: Can we test this on this call? JS: Let's handle one problem at a time JF: next item? JS: We have more to discuss, but let's move forward Actions Review (Specs) [16]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open [16] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open MC: James set a couple of his actions to "pending review" JS: Can we bounce e-mails to PF to the APA list? MC: Let me see ... Splash screens are sometimes used to inform users on how to use an application JS: Sounds worthy to me, anybody? MC: James also send editorial comments (accessibility related) ... Might want to send them to the group non the less <MichaelC> [17]http://www.w3.org/mid/E1YnUr0-000GJq-1x%2540deneb.w3.org [17] http://www.w3.org/mid/E1YnUr0-000GJq-1x%2540deneb.w3.org JS: If there is no objection we have consensus <MichaelC> close action-1648 <trackbot> Closed action-1648. JS: Thank you James ... Let's take it up now ... I think it's more than enough guidens on what a good description looks like <mck> action-1763? <trackbot> Sorry, but action-1763 does not exist. <MichaelC> [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1763 [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1763 <janina> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0014 .html [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0014.html JS: My proposal is that I just forward that to MSE ... Currently accepted mechanism include longdesc MC: What jumps out at me is that it describes colour and shape information ... I think there are formal names for all the symbols ... Arguments, colour and shape can help discussing with a colleague JF: That's why I include it JS: I think we can offer to help and refine it JF: I was on the fore front of the discussion of longdesc ... This image needs a long description JS: Saying W3C has formally accepted longdesc might help <jamesn> +1 to JF - lets state the issue not the solution JF: That might stir up Cupertino ... Let's state the issue, not the solution ... We made our point <cyns> +1 to john LW: We're not going to include every possible way new on TR [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [20] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html MC: Not seeing anything jumping out that we need to look at JS: One thing we need to care about is the screen API ... That you can lock it portrait/landscape <MichaelC> [21]The Screen Orientation API [21] http://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/ Proposed Final Design for W3C Technical Reports [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0007.html [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jan/0007.html JS: fantasai has been working on a new TR design ... We've had comments in the past (colour contrast etc) JF: I think it is good overall ... One of the things they did, they reduced the contrast for anchors ... They want to make it very readable ... They are trying to improve the readability if you have sentence with a lot of links ... They use a darker grey as underline ... WCAG does not state underlines should meet colour contrast requirements ... fantasai has tweaked it a little bit MK: I'm really wondering why you would consider the underline as part of the text <JF> SAmple layout is here: [23]http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/style/design/w3c-restyle/201 6/sample [23] http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/style/design/w3c-restyle/2016/sample JF: Asked a group member with low vision if the underline was clear, he said no CS: They need to do user testing MB: Agree JS: We need to stop ... Please take a look online ... 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