- From: Fredrik Fischer <fredrik.fischer@myAbility.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 08:42:48 +0000
- To: "Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "public-apa-admin@w3.org" <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
+1 ______________________________________________ Fredrik Fischer Digital Accessibility Expert Zertifizierter Experte für digitale Barrierefreiheit myAbility Social Enterprise GmbH Kärntner Ring 12/2b, 1010 Wien (Eingang über Dumbastraße 2) Handelsgericht Wien, FN 411924x Mobile: +43 (660) 1132553 Mail: fredrik.fischer@myability.org We are hiring! Hier geht es zu unseren aktuellen Jobangeboten. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. August 2022 18:51 An: public-apa-admin@w3.org Betreff: IMPORTANT: Updated Call for Consensus (CfC): Horizontal Review of WCAG 2.2 This Call for Consensus is reissued to correct my copy and paste error in the original CfC. Please confirm by voting again. The error was noted during our weekly teleconference on Wednesday 24 August: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F24-apa-minutes.html%23t03&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=G0Nnx%2BWSXDE4kXqTDAeB4%2BYd7OJTFcgxBnbZIqCO%2FYI%3D&reserved=0 A "Corrected Proposed Disposition" and a "Revised Action to Take" sections follow. The "Background" section in the original CfC is confirmed accurate. ***Corrected Proposed Disposition*** APA requests AGWG remove the first word, "Sometimes," from Sec. 5.4 of the WCAG 2.2 Candidate Recommendation draft document (and use no quantitative term whatsoever) as suggested on github here: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F2305%23issuecomment-1209655125&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0yg5a1unvJySOiwkfdc2717jNMbxKo7ZNZoxTaue74k%3D&reserved=0 Thus, Sec. 5.4 would begin with an initial sentence that reads: "Web pages are created that will later have additional content added to them." ***Revised Action to Take*** This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though messages of support are certainly welcome. If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Monday 29 August. NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the APA Decision Policy published at: https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xQB%2FIk5CVUWE1Mgp1tpb%2Bv63nW7ad%2FJxa%2FCTcBd5oUs%3D&reserved=0 Janina and Matthew Janina Sajka writes: > Colleagues: > > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform > Architectures (APA) Working Group formally testing for group consensus > regarding our proposed disposition of our WCAG 2.2 Candidate > Recommendation Draft horizontal review. Those of you who have > participated in recent APA teleconferences will recognize this as the > "Sometimes" question. > > ***Background*** > > As always with W3C specifications, APA has a horizontal review > responsibility which applies to specifications created by other WAI > groups just as to any other W3C group. In this context the question of > conducting a formal horizontal review of the draft WCAG 2.2 CR was > first raised on Wednesday 3 August at the regular weekly APA > teleconference, and at the group's request, additional background, > quoted below, was provided by email, available at this link: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F03-apa-minutes.html%23t12&data=05%7C01%7Cfred > rik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d > 38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CT > WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rYCqytSm23hoQV%2FiCcbAYqkjVknAX7FQKU > oMikl5zN4%3D&reserved=0 > > "During our regular teleconference Wednesday 3 August we seemed > generally disinclined to take on an in depth review of the pending > WCAG > 2.2 Candidate Recommendation draft currently in a Call for Consensus > in the Accessibility Guidelines Working Group. > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flist > s.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fw3c-wai-gl%2F2022JulSep%2F0112.html& > ;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb9 > 08da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034 > 327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ > BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jrgkDNvCYBYW1KNn > 5lidCywnR2lqVcSb4FsElqBRVaI%3D&reserved=0 > > "However, there was interest in understanding more about a comment > characterizing third party content injections as occuring "sometimes" > in the section defining Partial Conformance: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG22%2F%23conformance-partial&data=05%7C01%7Cfredr > ik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d3 > 8a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTW > FpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6 > Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WLLzi9b2ab8sug9kPcs%2F9YnN0P6PJO9lCpg > PNOjEHBg%3D&reserved=0 > > "We note "sometimes" is the first word in this section. It has been > suggested "sometimes" unrealistically understates the lived reality of > today's web. The term "increasingly" has been proposed as a better > descriptor. That issue discussion is here: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith > ub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F2305&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer > %40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43 > 993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8 > eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 > 000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=X07PDAoBhaAiwBqpyMzN8TDKClQ9pSJFmM7EmRGtjKA%3D& > amp;reserved=0 > > "We agreed to return to this question at our next call Wednesday 10 > August." > > Our discussion on Wednesday 10 August is logged here: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F10-apa-minutes.html%23t11&data=05%7C01%7Cfred > rik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d > 38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CT > WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=UivhKk5vGKJTT%2BUDY5jdJzbcBeAnSivkBH > 6FK3W71fg%3D&reserved=0 > > Our last discussion which leads to this CfC occured during the APA > teleconference of Wednesday 17 August and is logged here: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F17-apa-minutes.html%23t09&data=05%7C01%7Cfred > rik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d > 38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CT > WFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI > 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=K5VRE5Tu79%2BdC2EBczck6NBHycxTV2The5 > X6pWPerws%3D&reserved=0 > > APA's following proposed disposition of this issue is taken from the > second option suggested by AGWG Co-Chair Alastair as noted next. > > ***Proposed Disposition*** > > APA requests AGWG remove the first word, "Sometimes," from Sec. 5.4 > of the WCAG 2.2 Candidate Recommendation draft document as suggested > on github here: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith > ub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F2305%23issuecomment-1209655125&data > =05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da8 > 5f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C63796956703432764 > 4%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 > Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0yg5a1unvJySOiwkfdc27 > 17jNMbxKo7ZNZoxTaue74k%3D&reserved=0 > > Thus, Sec. 5.4 would begin with an initial sentence that reads: > > "Many Web pages are created that will later have additional content > added to them." > > ***Action to Take*** > > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of > support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though > messages of support are certainly welcome. > > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning > this proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no > later than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Wednesday 24 August. > > NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with > the APA Decision Policy published at: > > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w > 3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer > %40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43 > 993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8 > eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 > 000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xQB%2FIk5CVUWE1Mgp1tpb%2Bv63nW7ad%2FJxa%2FCTcBd > 5oUs%3D&reserved=0 > > Janina and Matthew > > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flink > edin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability. > org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b2 > 9ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL > jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C& > amp;sdata=ULreR8M%2FTXL07eAgBimTDEnNwommCL%2F%2FQteFcB7FWjw%3D&res > erved=0 > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=25dACMtw3PQAddNtnfq%2BRCrg%2F4I3RSHiWu0sNk3CRC8%3D&reserved=0 > -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) Accessibility Consultant https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ULreR8M%2FTXL07eAgBimTDEnNwommCL%2F%2FQteFcB7FWjw%3D&reserved=0 The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034327644%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=25dACMtw3PQAddNtnfq%2BRCrg%2F4I3RSHiWu0sNk3CRC8%3D&reserved=0 Linux Foundation Fellow https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxfoundation.org%2Fboard-of-directors-2%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7Ce93cdf73596e4178fbb908da85f0e11c%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637969567034483858%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MvXNqgU9%2FYefJAdweDMejp%2Flkm8OQTA%2BzfsnoWZyrGg%3D&reserved=0
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