AW: Call for Consensus (CfC): Horizontal Review of WCAG 2.2

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Von: Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2022 18:45
An: public-apa-admin@w3.org <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
Betreff: Call for Consensus (CfC): Horizontal Review of WCAG 2.2

Colleagues:

This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform
Architectures (APA) Working Group formally testing for group consensus
regarding our proposed disposition of our WCAG 2.2 Candidate
Recommendation Draft horizontal review. Those of you who have
participated in recent APA teleconferences will recognize this as the
"Sometimes" question.

***Background***

As always with W3C specifications, APA has a horizontal review
responsibility which applies to specifications created by other WAI
groups just as to any other W3C group. In this context the question of
conducting a formal horizontal review of the draft WCAG 2.2 CR was first
raised on Wednesday 3 August at the regular weekly APA teleconference,
and at the group's request, additional background, quoted below,  was
provided by email, available at this link:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F03-apa-minutes.html%23t12&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=8pPiZmAe%2BGf4oE4dVHODN9q9EKQlPaxiE6sz%2Fqssflw%3D&amp;reserved=0

"During our regular teleconference Wednesday 3 August we seemed
generally disinclined to take on an in depth review of the pending WCAG
2.2 Candidate Recommendation draft currently in a Call for Consensus in
the Accessibility Guidelines Working Group.

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"However, there was interest in understanding more about a comment
characterizing third party content injections as occuring "sometimes" in
the section defining Partial Conformance:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FWCAG22%2F%23conformance-partial&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=UUTvBoKp2FDd85pYPd0PgvtiKkGh5peSEiJo7kjLEqQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

"We note "sometimes" is the first word in this section. It has been
suggested "sometimes" unrealistically understates the lived reality of
today's web. The term "increasingly" has been proposed as a better
descriptor. That issue discussion is here:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F2305&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=%2FMnlL4ZgMjGb0ZXuabLkqWDK%2BfbggYWE2qy6RXMXQ%2FU%3D&amp;reserved=0

"We agreed to return to this question at our next call Wednesday 10
August."

Our discussion on Wednesday 10 August is logged here:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F10-apa-minutes.html%23t11&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=h4Png1nkzFT4JAs%2FQTP7B%2F8tBqym0NY9L4hMyeSD6IM%3D&amp;reserved=0

Our last discussion which leads to this CfC occured during the APA
teleconference of Wednesday 17 August and is logged here:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2F08%2F17-apa-minutes.html%23t09&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=uaHaAmAYbOn4w7f1VMNIxAFP8LNasTuMHIrEaqwX9%2F0%3D&amp;reserved=0

APA's following proposed disposition of this issue is taken from the second
option suggested by AGWG Co-Chair Alastair as noted next.

***Proposed Disposition***

APA requests AGWG remove the first word, "Sometimes,"  from Sec. 5.4 of
the WCAG 2.2 Candidate Recommendation draft document as suggested on
github here:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag%2Fissues%2F2305%23issuecomment-1209655125&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cfredrik.fischer%40myability.org%7C7f9eaf249a0e4ffc29b408da806ffa61%7C6cc4d38a91474f43993044c99d7b29ac%7C0%7C0%7C637963515684710236%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=2scTqjRAhu3V6gZhBf7HLkW%2F%2Bu%2BwVxeIhuxx940SWxk%3D&amp;reserved=0

Thus, Sec. 5.4 would begin with an initial sentence that reads:

"Many Web pages are created that will later have additional content
added to them."

***Action to Take***

This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of
support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though
messages of support are certainly welcome.

If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this
proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later
than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Wednesday 24 August.

NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the
APA Decision Policy published at:

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Janina and Matthew


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