- From: Mike Beganyi <mbeganyi@tpgi.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:10:22 +0000
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+1 Mike Beganyi Accessibility Engineer [Tpgi] TPG Interactive www.tpgi.com<https://www.tpgi.com/> A Vispero Company From: Lionel Wolberger <lionel@userway.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 9:08 PM To: Noble, Stephen <steve.noble@pearson.com> Cc: Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net>; public-apa-admin@w3.org Subject: Re: Call for Consensus (CfC): Update Our Decision on Publishing an FPWD of CAPTCHA CAUTION: This email originated outside Vispero. Do not click links, open attachments or forward unless you recognize the sender. +1 [Image removed by sender.] Lionel Wolberger COO, UserWay Inc. lionel@userway.org<mailto:lionel@userway.org> UserWay.org<http://userway.org/> [Image removed by sender. text] On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:29 PM Noble, Stephen <steve.noble@pearson.com<mailto:steve.noble@pearson.com>> wrote: +1 Steve Noble Instructional Designer, Accessibility Psychometrics & Testing Services Pearson 502 969 3088 steve.noble@pearson.com<mailto:steve.noble@pearson.com> [Image removed by sender.] ________________________________ From: Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>) <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 1:25 PM To: public-apa-admin@w3.org<mailto:public-apa-admin@w3.org> <public-apa-admin@w3.org<mailto:public-apa-admin@w3.org>> Subject: Call for Consensus (CfC): Update Our Decision on Publishing an FPWD of CAPTCHA Colleagues: This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working Group proposing an update to our recent consensus decision (reproduced below) to return our 2019 Note: "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA," to further development as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD). Rather than simply republish our 2019 Note, our Research Questions Task Force (RQTF) requests we publish a slightly updated version as noted below. RQTF's resolution requesting this change is recorded here: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2F12%2F01-rqtf-minutes.html%23r01&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833717528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=WDZ1%2Bg9qY9mBPIe0kWIsUNVbl%2BwuuDNGMCTSh4ihAsk%3D&reserved=0 Only two changes have been made to the 2019 Note, but RQTF considers them particularly valuable enhancements to be highlighted for immediate wide review: * A brief economic impact is provided noting an estimate of the * hours wasted annually by people dealing with CAPTCHA challenges. * A new section has been added where a proposal has been put * forward to use the W3C Authentication API to obviate any need * for CAPTCHA. That added section can be found here: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2Fw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility%2F05bdd8c0d8b8a89860aca3a149c53ea4d7998a11%2Findex.html%23cryptographic-attestation-of-personhood&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=aAnjlr4M1HgF2377WE8ID90uNXbAgW3DD1C%2BgO9oLK4%3D&reserved=0 No other changes to our previous decision are suggested by this CfC. Our former consensus decision would stand as reproduced below and recorded at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fpublic-apa-admin%2F2021Nov%2F0012.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FsrVOX7ppwzVaosBh7wkIr9K88u%2FJLoRI9iIh9exzhk%3D&reserved=0 The updated draft we now propose to publish as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) is available here: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2Fw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility%2F05bdd8c0d8b8a89860aca3a149c53ea4d7998a11%2Findex.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2iQDAAOImvumYvK%2BbVIuasFimMG2qksZNOHUkiSELx4%3D&reserved=0 As always with our CfCs, editorial corrections, such as spelling or grammar, will be made as needed without further notice. Please do draw our attention to any editorial issues you find in this draft. ***Action to Take*** This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though messages of support are certainly welcome. If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Monday 6 December. NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the APA Decision Policy published at: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BSyNlqRidJKEKe8kmnzP%2FTtbu7kuJOSjYHy66UK04pI%3D&reserved=0 Janina and Becky Janina Sajka writes: > Colleagues: > > This Call for Consensus has received only messages of support. > Consequently it is agreed to as a consensus decision of APA and the > process described in the CfC will now begin. > > The head of thread for this CfC can be found at: > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fpublic-apa-admin%2F2021Nov%2F0000.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=QD50Tx2NkOFYnpxWv7bGsnlYUL%2F%2BxUBik6fNZRc7%2Bew%3D&reserved=0 > > Best, > > Janina and Becky > > Janina Sajka writes: > > Colleagues: > > > > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform > > Architectures (APA) Working Group proposing returning our existing > > Working Group Note, "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA" to a First Public Working > > Draft (FPWD) publication for further development and eventual elevation > > to W3C Statement status as provided for by the W3C Process 2021: > > > > Section 6.4.3 Elevating Group Notes to W3C Statement status > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2FProcess-20211102%2F%23memo&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=n3vZbxWRsDdg%2BQBxY42Bmc56A9MGrEgJQp1OfNYH%2FXk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > The current Note is published here: > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fturingtest&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=okz1xEhf7CYDkwXKSctENDg3sm5gY3KUEcOgRDO66hU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > ***Proposed Process*** > > > > Approval of this CfC will: > > > > 1.) Publish the current Note as a new FPWD, requesting wide review; > > > > 2.) Assign further development of this Note to our Research Questions Task Force > > (RQTF), with our explicit authorization to publish updated Working Drafts of this note as > > RQTF may see fit until; > > > > 3.) RQTF returns a completed Note Draft to APA for CfC approval to > > publish an updated APA Working Group Note and; > > > > 4.) Elevation to W3C for publication as a W3C Statement as provided > > for in Sec. 6.4.3 of Process 2021: > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2FProcess-20211102%2F%23memo&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=n3vZbxWRsDdg%2BQBxY42Bmc56A9MGrEgJQp1OfNYH%2FXk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > ***Action to Take*** > > > > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of > > support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though > > messages of support are certainly welcome. > > > > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this > > proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later > > than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Wednesday 17 November. > > > > NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the > > APA Decision Policy published at: > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BSyNlqRidJKEKe8kmnzP%2FTtbu7kuJOSjYHy66UK04pI%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Janina and Becky > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=GmzvaBfBM6Gp8fCgpQFy4SXLmlq7bYp0OvNkbwVf8lo%3D&reserved=0 > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0 > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7q2X425qgQ%2B7ABoQy9IUEdxBplFcsEk7HTM7FJ7%2FJvI%3D&reserved=0 > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kIqU7FUt0OWZtB1CYmijwne%2Bg8Ci24LsMxEPgq7820w%3D&reserved=0 > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0 > -- Janina Sajka https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7q2X425qgQ%2B7ABoQy9IUEdxBplFcsEk7HTM7FJ7%2FJvI%3D&reserved=0 Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kIqU7FUt0OWZtB1CYmijwne%2Bg8Ci24LsMxEPgq7820w%3D&reserved=0 The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0
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