- From: Lionel Wolberger <lionel@userway.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 23:07:33 +0200
- To: "Noble, Stephen" <steve.noble@pearson.com>
- Cc: "Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "public-apa-admin@w3.org" <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHOHNHc6nuHeRU2BtpvsXqrXj2K7kzBQfk59G0FQmhZ2-4xHXg@mail.gmail.com>
+1 Lionel Wolberger COO, UserWay Inc. lionel@userway.org UserWay.org <http://userway.org/> <https://t.sidekickopen90.com/s3t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7kF8cFFTBW4T_qld2zGCwVN8Jbw_8QsRtKVn1vXj1p1kknW16gGBN41Jd6G101?te=W3R5hFj4cm2zwW4hLZp04myBBCf43Wg2w04&si=8000000004174048&pi=7ca6946b-b75d-4ec6-f1f5-4ff05764276c>[image: text] On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:29 PM Noble, Stephen <steve.noble@pearson.com> wrote: > +1 > > > > > Steve Noble > Instructional Designer, Accessibility > Psychometrics & Testing Services > > *Pearson* > > 502 969 3088 > steve.noble@pearson.com > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Janina Sajka (janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 1, 2021 1:25 PM > *To:* public-apa-admin@w3.org <public-apa-admin@w3.org> > *Subject:* Call for Consensus (CfC): Update Our Decision on Publishing an > FPWD of CAPTCHA > > Colleagues: > > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform > Architectures (APA) Working Group proposing an update to our recent > consensus decision (reproduced below) to return our 2019 Note: > "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA," to further development as a First Public > Working Draft (FPWD). > > Rather than simply republish our 2019 Note, our Research Questions Task > Force (RQTF) requests we publish a slightly updated version as noted > below. RQTF's resolution requesting this change is recorded here: > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2F12%2F01-rqtf-minutes.html%23r01&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833717528%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=WDZ1%2Bg9qY9mBPIe0kWIsUNVbl%2BwuuDNGMCTSh4ihAsk%3D&reserved=0 > > Only two changes have been made to the 2019 Note, but RQTF considers > them particularly valuable enhancements to be highlighted for immediate > wide review: > > * A brief economic impact is provided noting an estimate of the > * hours wasted annually by people dealing with CAPTCHA challenges. > > * A new section has been added where a proposal has been put > * forward to use the W3C Authentication API to obviate any need > * for CAPTCHA. That added section can be found here: > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2Fw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility%2F05bdd8c0d8b8a89860aca3a149c53ea4d7998a11%2Findex.html%23cryptographic-attestation-of-personhood&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=aAnjlr4M1HgF2377WE8ID90uNXbAgW3DD1C%2BgO9oLK4%3D&reserved=0 > > No other changes to our previous decision are suggested by this CfC. Our > former consensus decision would stand as reproduced below and recorded at: > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fpublic-apa-admin%2F2021Nov%2F0012.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FsrVOX7ppwzVaosBh7wkIr9K88u%2FJLoRI9iIh9exzhk%3D&reserved=0 > > The updated draft we now propose to publish as a First Public Working > Draft (FPWD) is available here: > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githack.com%2Fw3c%2Fcaptcha-accessibility%2F05bdd8c0d8b8a89860aca3a149c53ea4d7998a11%2Findex.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2iQDAAOImvumYvK%2BbVIuasFimMG2qksZNOHUkiSELx4%3D&reserved=0 > > As always with our CfCs, editorial corrections, such as spelling or > grammar, will be made as needed without further notice. Please do draw > our attention to any editorial issues you find in this draft. > > ***Action to Take*** > > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of > support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though > messages of support are certainly welcome. > > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this > proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later > than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Monday 6 December. > > NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the > APA Decision Policy published at: > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BSyNlqRidJKEKe8kmnzP%2FTtbu7kuJOSjYHy66UK04pI%3D&reserved=0 > > Janina and Becky > > > Janina Sajka writes: > > Colleagues: > > > > This Call for Consensus has received only messages of support. > > Consequently it is agreed to as a consensus decision of APA and the > > process described in the CfC will now begin. > > > > The head of thread for this CfC can be found at: > > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.w3.org%2FArchives%2FPublic%2Fpublic-apa-admin%2F2021Nov%2F0000.html&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=QD50Tx2NkOFYnpxWv7bGsnlYUL%2F%2BxUBik6fNZRc7%2Bew%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Best, > > > > Janina and Becky > > > > Janina Sajka writes: > > > Colleagues: > > > > > > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform > > > Architectures (APA) Working Group proposing returning our existing > > > Working Group Note, "Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA" to a First Public > Working > > > Draft (FPWD) publication for further development and eventual elevation > > > to W3C Statement status as provided for by the W3C Process 2021: > > > > > > Section 6.4.3 Elevating Group Notes to W3C Statement status > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2FProcess-20211102%2F%23memo&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=n3vZbxWRsDdg%2BQBxY42Bmc56A9MGrEgJQp1OfNYH%2FXk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > The current Note is published here: > > > > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fturingtest&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=okz1xEhf7CYDkwXKSctENDg3sm5gY3KUEcOgRDO66hU%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > ***Proposed Process*** > > > > > > Approval of this CfC will: > > > > > > 1.) Publish the current Note as a new FPWD, requesting wide review; > > > > > > 2.) Assign further development of this Note to our Research Questions > Task Force > > > (RQTF), with our explicit authorization to publish updated Working > Drafts of this note as > > > RQTF may see fit until; > > > > > > 3.) RQTF returns a completed Note Draft to APA for CfC approval to > > > publish an updated APA Working Group Note and; > > > > > > 4.) Elevation to W3C for publication as a W3C Statement as provided > > > for in Sec. 6.4.3 of Process 2021: > > > > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2021%2FProcess-20211102%2F%23memo&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=n3vZbxWRsDdg%2BQBxY42Bmc56A9MGrEgJQp1OfNYH%2FXk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > ***Action to Take*** > > > > > > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of > > > support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though > > > messages of support are certainly welcome. > > > > > > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this > > > proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later > > > than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Wednesday 17 November. > > > > > > NOTE: This Call for Consensus is being conducted in accordance with the > > > APA Decision Policy published at: > > > > > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=BSyNlqRidJKEKe8kmnzP%2FTtbu7kuJOSjYHy66UK04pI%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > Janina and Becky > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833727524%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=GmzvaBfBM6Gp8fCgpQFy4SXLmlq7bYp0OvNkbwVf8lo%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > > Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7q2X425qgQ%2B7ABoQy9IUEdxBplFcsEk7HTM7FJ7%2FJvI%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kIqU7FUt0OWZtB1CYmijwne%2Bg8Ci24LsMxEPgq7820w%3D&reserved=0 > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0 > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkedin.com%2Fin%2Fjsajka&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7q2X425qgQ%2B7ABoQy9IUEdxBplFcsEk7HTM7FJ7%2FJvI%3D&reserved=0 > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fa11y.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kIqU7FUt0OWZtB1CYmijwne%2Bg8Ci24LsMxEPgq7820w%3D&reserved=0 > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fwai%2Fapa&data=04%7C01%7Csteve.noble%40pearson.com%7C4bb7d911ee3f490f58ac08d9b4f8081d%7C8cc434d797d047d3b5c514fe0e33e34b%7C0%7C0%7C637739800833737517%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=5%2BJpaHQ%2Fds8yRyWJFRRii54KIYY3PHQYrEDfsv37ldA%3D&reserved=0 > > >
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