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Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Spoken Pronunciation Task Force

From: Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:46:11 +0100
To: "Hakkinen, Mark T" <mhakkinen@ets.org>, APA WG <public-apa@w3.org>, "public-apa-admin@w3.org" <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
Message-ID: <16c67cc1-164e-dbdb-5852-cc119ebd4a2b@tink.uk>
Copy to APA WG, to officially record that I lifted my objection.


On 03/10/2018 12:09, Léonie Watson wrote:
> Thanks Mark, I appreciate you taking time to share more of the background.
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> I'd feel more confident if there were people from Apple, Microsoft, and 
> Google, already participating in APA WG, because an expression of 
> interest doesn't necessarily translate into active participation.
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> If the TF can bring everyone in, it's worth a try though, so I'm ok with 
> lifting my objection.
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> Léonie.
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> On 01/10/2018 22:17, Hakkinen, Mark T wrote:
>> Hi Leonie,
>>
>> Let me share some background.    We have been "incubating this" in the 
>> IMS Global Learning Consortium for several years (we can include SSML 
>> as part of QTI, but QTI eventually gets transformed to HTML), but need 
>> to move it to Web space now.  We have talked to VFO (I mean Glen 
>> Gordon), TextHelp, NVDA, Apple, Microsoft, and Google regarding the 
>> need, and the reaction has been positive, and TextHelp I believe will 
>> implement, and I expect we will get others.  On the authoring side, we 
>> have Pearson, and ETS who need a solution, and Pearson has stated 
>> support for our approach in a recent IMS call.   EPUB could use a 
>> solution, as the name spaced SSML subset they use hasn't seen wide 
>> update to date. I plan to engage with them.  My intent was to use the 
>> TF to bring the publishers and AT vendors to the table.
>>
>> Does this change your opinion any?
>>
>> Mark
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>> On 10/1/18, 5:05 PM, "Léonie Watson" <tink@tink.uk> wrote:
>>
>>      I don't support this CFC.
>>
>>      This is an interesting and enormously interesting area, but I'm
>>      concerned about incubating it in isolation. It would be 
>> disappointing to
>>      see time and effort put into these proposals, only to find out later
>>      that there is little or no interest from implementors, authors, 
>> and others.
>>
>>      My suggestion is to focus the TF on producing the first two 
>> deliverables
>>      mentioned in the work statement:
>>      * Gap analysis
>>      * Use cases and requirements document
>>
>>      That would then enable us to take these documents to the wider 
>> community
>>      for comment, and enable us to ascertain whether there is sufficient
>>      interest from implementors and authors, before getting into the 
>> detail
>>      of proposing a specification and/or specific approach (something 
>> that
>>      should be done with much wider input in any case).
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>>      Léonie.
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>>      On 01/10/2018 18:24, White, Jason J wrote:
>>      > +1
>>      >
>>      > -----Original Message-----
>>      > From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
>>      > Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 PM
>>      > To: public-apa-admin@w3.org
>>      > Subject: Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Spoken 
>> Pronunciation Task Force
>>      >
>>      > Colleagues:
>>      >
>>      > This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform 
>> Architectures (APA) Working Group on a Work Statement for our new 
>> Spoken Pronunciation Task Force available at:
>>      >
>>      > 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Ftask-forces%2Fpronunciation%2Fwork-statement&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cmhakkinen%40ets.org%7C939035de2f084ce1963708d627e1acab%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636740247560741452&amp;sdata=WudLsjiVDuEhpwb3HcuxpKiToGPYHgRnjhIClkUIZgg%3D&amp;reserved=0 
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>>      >
>>      > It is hereby proposed to adopt this draft Work Statement as the 
>> foundational document for this APA Task Force.
>>      >
>>      > *       ACTION TO TAKE
>>      >
>>      > This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as 
>> statements of support via email. Silence will be interpreted as 
>> support, though messages of support are certainly welcome.
>>      >
>>      > If you object to this proposed action, or have comments 
>> concerning this proposal, please respond by replying on list to this 
>> message no later than 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Sunday 7 October.
>>      >
>>      > Janina
>>      >
>>      > NOTE: This Call for Consensus (CfC) is being conducted pursuant 
>> to the APA Decision Policy available at:
>>      >
>>      > 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Fdecision-policy&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cmhakkinen%40ets.org%7C939035de2f084ce1963708d627e1acab%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C636740247560741452&amp;sdata=EGd%2BkIEL0%2BIYl%2BSqJ0tQaruZUwaag0bbBjMEQJr6%2BIA%3D&amp;reserved=0 
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>>      >
>>      >
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>>      > Janina Sajka
>>      >
>>      > Linux Foundation Fellow
>>      > Executive Chair, Accessibility 
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>>      >
>>      > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility 
>> Initiative (WAI)
>>      > Chair, Accessible Platform 
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