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Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Spoken Pronunciation Task Force

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:45:34 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxxDQcPNG__FDvbRfyhX+LtbXF+HC6i5MHAbvjmFMc2B9w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk>
Cc: "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, "public-apa-admin@w3.org" <public-apa-admin@w3.org>
I support the bulk of this, but have some concerns.

Specifically, the *Objective *section suggests developing "... a solution
in the context of existing W3C technologies...", and further developing
"...a consistent mechanism to incorporate SSML into HTML..."

Yet the *Scope of Work* states:

The Spoken Presentation Task Force will develop:


   - Gap analysis;
   - Use cases and requirements document;
   - A *document proposing a technical approach* for providing the solution
   to address the need for accurate pronunciation and presentation of spoken
   content in various languages.

As such, it appears that the *Objectives *and *Scope of Work* are not fully
aligned. To be clear, I support the work items outlined in the *Scope of
Work*, while noting that the final deliverable is a "proposal", and not a
"solution" or "consistent mechanism".

I agree with Léonie that wider review will be needed *before *a solution is
standardized, but I support the creation of this Task Force as pursuing
important activities under the umbrella of the APA WG.

JF


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk> wrote:

> I don't support this CFC.
>
> This is an interesting and enormously interesting area, but I'm concerned
> about incubating it in isolation. It would be disappointing to see time and
> effort put into these proposals, only to find out later that there is
> little or no interest from implementors, authors, and others.
>
> My suggestion is to focus the TF on producing the first two deliverables
> mentioned in the work statement:
> * Gap analysis
> * Use cases and requirements document
>
> That would then enable us to take these documents to the wider community
> for comment, and enable us to ascertain whether there is sufficient
> interest from implementors and authors, before getting into the detail of
> proposing a specification and/or specific approach (something that should
> be done with much wider input in any case).
>
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>
> Léonie.
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> On 01/10/2018 18:24, White, Jason J wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
>> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 1:17 PM
>> To: public-apa-admin@w3.org
>> Subject: Re: 48-Hour Call for Consensus (CfC): Spoken Pronunciation Task
>> Force
>>
>> Colleagues:
>>
>> This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessible Platform
>> Architectures (APA) Working Group on a Work Statement for our new Spoken
>> Pronunciation Task Force available at:
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
>> 2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FAPA%2Ftask-forces%2Fpronunciation%
>> 2Fwork-statement&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjjwhite%40ets.org%7C91c
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>> It is hereby proposed to adopt this draft Work Statement as the
>> foundational document for this APA Task Force.
>>
>> *       ACTION TO TAKE
>>
>> This CfC is now open for objection, comment, as well as statements of
>> support via email. Silence will be interpreted as support, though messages
>> of support are certainly welcome.
>>
>> If you object to this proposed action, or have comments concerning this
>> proposal, please respond by replying on list to this message no later than
>> 23:59 (Midnight) Boston Time, Sunday 7 October.
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> NOTE: This Call for Consensus (CfC) is being conducted pursuant to the
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*​John Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
deque.com
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