- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 19:49:28 +0100
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Cc: W3C Public Annotation List <public-annotation@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <A39F9F40-1A27-4839-941E-201CFD99AD0C@w3.org>
Felix,
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Ivan Herman
Tel:+31 641044153
http://www.ivan-herman.net
(Written on mobile, sorry for brevity and misspellings...)
> On 6 Nov 2015, at 19:10, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>
>
>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 18:13 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 17:48, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 17:32 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Hm.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that, in fact, what you wrote is almost correct as it is, provided that you have added an additional context for that namespace. Ie, in terms of JSON-LD, what you would do is:
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>> "@context" : [
>>>> "http://www.w3.org/ns/anno.jsonld",
>>>> {
>>>> "itsrdf" : "http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its/rdf#"
>>>> }
>>>> ],
>>>> "target" : "A URI TO THE TARGET“,
>>>
>>>
>>> How would the URI to the target look like, if we assume that the target is the string „Berlin“ in below HTML document?
>>
>> There are several possibilities:
>>
>> - you use an xpointer scheme URI using an XPATH selector
>>
>> - you use a Text Quote Selector (http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/#text-quote-selector)
>>
>> "target" : {
>> source: "URI TO YOUR HTML FILE",
>> "selector" : {
>> "@type" : "TextQuoteSelector"
>> "exact" : "Berlin"
>> }
>> }
>
> That would create an ambiguity if the file contains
> <p>Welcome to <strong>Berlin</strong>! And I love Berlin!</p>
There is also a prefix and suffix possibility, just I have not used it.
>
>>
>> - We are also discussing to have an XPath selector or a CSS Media Query selector; both could also be used.
>
> That would not work if we have
> <p>Welcome to Berlin! And I love Berlin!</p>
We are just discussing similar issues! See
https://github.com/w3c/web-annotation/issues/95
I.
>
> The examples may sound artificial but I am coming as you may have guessed from the question how to represent annotations of strings that are part of HTML - and the rfc 5147 char scheme can’t be used for HTML content.
>
> - Felix
>
>>
>>>
>>>> "body" : {
>>>> "itsrdf:translate" : "no"
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> The trick is that JSON-LD allows multiple contexts to be mixed in. I believe that should be a bona fide (albeit unusual) annotation in the model, but maybe Rob will disagree.
>>>>
>>>> However, if it actually *is* a correct annotation, we may want to call out this type of example somewhere in the document… Annotations may want to use terms from other vocabularies after all…
>>>
>>> That would be nice. I took an action item to create such examples from the f2f meeting last week, so this is just a start and I’m trying to make sure this is going into the right direction - more to come next week :)
>>>
>>> - Felix
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ivan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 17:07, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 16:31 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 15:35, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> apologies for this newbie question. I am looking for an example of annotating HTML content. Imagine I have the following document:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>>>>>> <html lang="en">
>>>>>>> <head>
>>>>>>> <meta charset="utf-8">
>>>>>>> <title>some html doc</title>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> </head>
>>>>>>> <body>
>>>>>>> <p>Welcome to <strong>Berlin</strong>!</p>
>>>>>>> </body>
>>>>>>> </html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to create an annotation that uses the web annotation model, uses a text selector for the string „Berlin“ and adds an annotation body containing a triple with the „translate“ predicate from the ITS 2.0 ontology, see
>>>>>>> http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/itsrdf/master/its-rdf.rdf#d4e52
>>>>>>> expressing that the string should not be translated. How would this look like?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what you intend to do. Do you mean that the target should be a graph containing a specific triple?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the target should be a selector selecting the string „Berlin“. The annotation body should contain a tripe like
>>>>>
>>>>> "body": {
>>>>>
>>>>> "itsrdf:translate" : "no",
>>>>>
>>>>> … }
>>>>>
>>>>> So I am wondering how to express this target and how the body should look like.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Felix
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>> Digital Publishing Lead
>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>>>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>> Digital Publishing Lead
>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> Digital Publishing Lead
>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704
>
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