- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 19:10:57 +0100
- To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Cc: W3C Public Annotation List <public-annotation@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <AE91C220-5433-410C-85C9-4AA3D1671CA4@w3.org>
> Am 06.11.2015 um 18:13 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>:
>
>>
>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 17:48, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 17:32 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>>:
>>>
>>> Hm.
>>>
>>> I believe that, in fact, what you wrote is almost correct as it is, provided that you have added an additional context for that namespace. Ie, in terms of JSON-LD, what you would do is:
>>>
>>> {
>>> "@context" : [
>>> "http://www.w3.org/ns/anno.jsonld <http://www.w3.org/ns/anno.jsonld>",
>>> {
>>> "itsrdf" : "http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its/rdf# <http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its/rdf#>"
>>> }
>>> ],
>>> "target" : "A URI TO THE TARGET“,
>>
>>
>> How would the URI to the target look like, if we assume that the target is the string „Berlin“ in below HTML document?
>
> There are several possibilities:
>
> - you use an xpointer scheme URI using an XPATH selector
>
> - you use a Text Quote Selector (http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/#text-quote-selector <http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/#text-quote-selector>)
>
> "target" : {
> source: "URI TO YOUR HTML FILE",
> "selector" : {
> "@type" : "TextQuoteSelector"
> "exact" : "Berlin"
> }
> }
That would create an ambiguity if the file contains
<p>Welcome to <strong>Berlin</strong>! And I love Berlin!</p>
>
> - We are also discussing to have an XPath selector or a CSS Media Query selector; both could also be used.
That would not work if we have
<p>Welcome to Berlin! And I love Berlin!</p>
The examples may sound artificial but I am coming as you may have guessed from the question how to represent annotations of strings that are part of HTML - and the rfc 5147 char scheme can’t be used for HTML content.
- Felix
>
>>
>>> "body" : {
>>> "itsrdf:translate" : "no"
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> The trick is that JSON-LD allows multiple contexts to be mixed in. I believe that should be a bona fide (albeit unusual) annotation in the model, but maybe Rob will disagree.
>>>
>>> However, if it actually *is* a correct annotation, we may want to call out this type of example somewhere in the document… Annotations may want to use terms from other vocabularies after all…
>>
>> That would be nice. I took an action item to create such examples from the f2f meeting last week, so this is just a start and I’m trying to make sure this is going into the right direction - more to come next week :)
>>
>> - Felix
>>
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 17:07, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 06.11.2015 um 16:31 schrieb Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 Nov 2015, at 15:35, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> apologies for this newbie question. I am looking for an example of annotating HTML content. Imagine I have the following document:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>>>>>> <html lang="en">
>>>>>> <head>
>>>>>> <meta charset="utf-8">
>>>>>> <title>some html doc</title>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </head>
>>>>>> <body>
>>>>>> <p>Welcome to <strong>Berlin</strong>!</p>
>>>>>> </body>
>>>>>> </html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to create an annotation that uses the web annotation model, uses a text selector for the string „Berlin“ and adds an annotation body containing a triple with the „translate“ predicate from the ITS 2.0 ontology, see
>>>>>> http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/itsrdf/master/its-rdf.rdf#d4e52 <http://www.essepuntato.it/lode/https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/itsrdf/master/its-rdf.rdf#d4e52>
>>>>>> expressing that the string should not be translated. How would this look like?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure what you intend to do. Do you mean that the target should be a graph containing a specific triple?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the target should be a selector selecting the string „Berlin“. The annotation body should contain a tripe like
>>>>
>>>> "body": {
>>>>
>>>> "itsrdf:translate" : "no",
>>>>
>>>> … }
>>>>
>>>> So I am wondering how to express this target and how the body should look like.
>>>>
>>>> - Felix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback in advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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> Digital Publishing Lead
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