Re: What happened to semantic tagging?

Given that the SemanticTag intent is to add to the graph, it may be best
for us to explore places to put that in the JSON-LD such that it has that
express meaning--and not shoe horn it into a place meant for something less
"meaningful."

This came up in recent conversations with Randall (CC'd), and the summary
was essentially: "boy wouldn't it be nice if more formats understood named
graphs"--see JSON-LD's `@graph` construct:
http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#named-graphs

As specified currently, I think you could use the `tagging` role + `source`
to express what we previously had using `page`.

However, if you're adding statements about the target directly, then...I'd
just use RDF as it is by adding statements to that portion of the JSON-LD
or providing an additional `@graph` object.

Granted...there may be something here I'm missing that you need for your
use case(s), so feedback welcome! :)

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Hugo Manguinhas <
Hugo.Manguinhas@europeana.eu> wrote:

> Hi Paolo,
>
> Thanks for your reply!
>
> To be honest I am still a bit ceptic on the introduction of roles to
> bodies and targets in the new spec since at such level it would be more
> natural to understand them as a form of classification (using @type) than a
> motivation/role...
>
> But coming back to the semantic tagging, how can one now distinguish
> between a "semantic" (machine readable, e.g. dbp) resource and a webpage
> (previously represented using the foaf:page property)? of course, assuming
> that the role tagging is used for both cases....
>
> Best regards,
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Paolo Ciccarese [paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 06 November 2015 14:34
> *To:* Hugo Manguinhas
> *Cc:* W3C Public Annotation List
> *Subject:* Re: What happened to semantic tagging?
>
> Hi Hugo,
> Semantic tagging is still present but it is achieved through roles, if you
> look at the list of the changes this is the entry: Align Tags and
> SemanticTags with roles for body and target.
>
> You might want to look at this section:
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-annotation-model-20151015/#roles-for-external-resources
>
> Best,
> Paolo
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Hugo Manguinhas <
> Hugo.Manguinhas@europeana.eu> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As I was looking through the recently published version of the spec, I
>> noticed that there is no reference to semantic tagging of resources as was
>> in the previous version. I was wondering if it was retracted from the spec,
>> or if there is another way to model it in this spec.
>>
>> Btw, I have dig up this thread from September that debates some issues
>> around it:
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Sep/0184.html,
>> but would like to ask/confirm with you if this was the direction taken...
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
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