- From: Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>
- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 21:53:25 +0000
- To: Benjamin Young <bigbluehat@hypothes.is>, "Denenberg, Ray" <rden@loc.gov>
- CC: Web Annotation <public-annotation@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CO2PR06MB572CE0042B1FE65EF5D46D2DF3A0@CO2PR06MB572.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
The basic problem is with the English language, which often uses the same word as a noun and a verb. Why don't we pick a language that doesn't do that? ;-) –Bill Kasdorf
From: Benjamin Young [mailto:bigbluehat@hypothes.is]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 4:49 PM
To: Denenberg, Ray
Cc: Web Annotation
Subject: Re: Motivation: Gerund or Infinitive
Well... :)
It would always technically *be* a verb, but I'm not sure it'd be clear in this JSON.
```
{
"motivatedBy": "comment"
}
```
Really, though, the "to comment" form could be made as a custom set of SKOS Concepts for using the infinitive form:
http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/#extending-motivations
But I'd want to see that available only as an extension and not mixed into the `oa` namespace as that would cause yet more confusion, I'm afraid.
Anyway. :) Saying the same thing different ways, so I'll let others weigh in.
Laters,
Benjamin
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov<mailto:rden@loc.gov>> wrote:
From: Benjamin Young [mailto:bigbluehat@hypothes.is]<mailto:[mailto:bigbluehat@hypothes.is]>
> oa:motivatedBy comment
> has potentially different meaning than
> oa:motivatedBy commenting
>
> The first (to me at least) implies that my annotation was motivated by a prior
> comment
Only if you take “comment” to be a noun, but the proposal is to use the infinitive form (where the "to" part of the infinitive is implied) thus it would always be understood to be a verb.
So:
oa:motivatedBy "comment"
says:
" motivatedBy to comment"
Admittedly this doesn't sound as good as if the predicate were (as we thought yesterday) oa:motivation. in that case it would say: "motivation: to comment". Actually I’d like to change to predicate (back) to oa:motivation.
Ray
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