- From: Jacob Jett <jgjett@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:56:19 -0500
- To: "Denenberg, Ray" <rden@loc.gov>
- Cc: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Web Annotation <public-annotation@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABzPtBKKkiHTynJYo8KW9Voj-s1DRbmH03bA5f6xGDd2BrX4WA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Ray, Going back to my juxtaposition example, the annotation needs the composite resource because it most faithfully communicates what the body is annotating -- the aggregation of the two resources. We still need to communicate what that composite is composed of so that the end user tool has enough information to actually fetch and render the target resources in the intended juxtaposition. Now there may be other ways of doing this, such as punting the aggregation part to some other model (like a collection model or whatnot). I'm not sure if that's on the table for discussion. I've certainly thought that much of the segmentation work in the model could be spun out because I have the same needs for arbitrary selectors in non-annotation contexts. Regards, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov> wrote: > Hi Jacob – > > > > I’m confused though - if the composite is indeed a resource, why point to > the multiple components rather than to the single composite resource? > > > > In 15, a list where order is significant, I can see need. > > > > But if the semantics of “composite” is that it is simply the union of the > components, what is the use case that requires pointing to the components > individually? > > > > Ray > > > > *From:* Jacob Jett [mailto:jgjett@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:50 PM > *To:* Denenberg, Ray > *Cc:* Robert Sanderson; Web Annotation > *Subject:* Re: Maximally Abstract Data Model > > > > Hi Ray, > > > > This was one of the original use cases for composite. I think more > properly we might define it as an aggregate resource composed of multiple > resources. To steal from chemistry, a suspension would be a good analogy to > a composite resource. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jacob > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov> wrote: > > 14. A Composite is a set from which all of the resources should be used. > > 15. A List is an ordered set of resources, of which all should be used. > > > > I see “composite” as “composite resource”, in other words, it is itself a > resource, consisting of the “union” (if you will) of the other resources > which I would call “component resources”. > > > > (I don’t necessarily see “list” being modeled similarly.) > > > > Ray > > > > > > *From:* Robert Sanderson [mailto:azaroth42@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:20 PM > *To:* Web Annotation > *Subject:* Maximally Abstract Data Model > > > > > > All, > > > > On the call today there was discussion about the data model, versus the > expression of the model using RDF, and then the serialization of that into > JSON-LD. > > > > To try and express the current abstract data model as simple statements... > > > > Annotation Baseline: > > > > 1. There is a resource which we call an Annotation, that typically > represents the linking between other resources. > > 2. Annotations have 0..n Body resources. > > 3. Annotations have 1..n Target resources. > > 4. Body resources are related to Target resources, and are typically > statements about the Target resources. > > 5. As separate resources, Annotations, Bodies and Targets have separate > properties, typically including provenance and descriptive metadata. > > > > Anchoring: > > > > 6. We introduce a type of resource called a SpecificResource that > identifies a more specific entity (more constrained/specialized) than an > existing resource which is identified by a URI. > > 7. SpecificResources have exactly 1 Source resource, that the > SpecificResource is more specific than (constrained/specialized from). > > 8. The constraints on the SpecificResource are specified in 1..n > Specifier resources. > > 9. A State is a type of Specifier that describes the state of a resource, > to allow the intended representation to be retrieved. > > 10. A Selector is a type of Specifier that describes part of a > representation of a resource. > > 11. A Style is a type of Specifier that describes how the resource should > be presented to the user. > > > > Multiplicity: > > > > 12. We introduce three methods of creating sets of resources. > > 13. A Choice is a set from which one resource should be selected for use. > > 14. A Composite is a set from which all of the resources should be used. > > 15. A List is an ordered set of resources, of which all should be used. > > 16. Multiplicity constructs can be used where-ever any resource can be > used. > > > > > > Additional statements welcome :) > > > > Rob > > > > -- > > Rob Sanderson > > Technology Collaboration Facilitator > > Digital Library Systems and Services > > Stanford, CA 94305 > > >
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