- From: Denenberg, Ray <rden@loc.gov>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:16:14 -0500
- To: "'Web Annotation'" <public-annotation@w3.org>
Doug - I responded in part last week and promised to get back to you on the second part. Sorry for the delay (holidays got in the way). Briefly, no, I do not agree with your "exemplar theory" as the basis for all use cases. That's not to say I'm right and you're wrong, only to say I think we need others to weigh in. I do not think it is useful to try to cast all annotations in terms of (as you put it) "here's a bunch of people in the wonderful future world of web annotations! " because the essence of the use case becomes lost in the details. I think in many cases a succinct statement of the use case or story is more useful. That said, I think it is very useful to have some of the use cases expanded as you describe, but not all (or even most) of them. But again, I think we need other opinions on this. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Schepers [mailto:schepers@w3.org] > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:43 PM > To: Denenberg, Ray; 'Web Annotation' > Subject: Framing Use Cases (was: Annotating Bibliographic Information) > > Hi, Ray, folks– > > TL;DR: > > Let's describe our use cases in a way that highlights the most common uses > of Web Annotations. > > > Long-winded version: > > I took the liberty of converting your .doc file into HTML format > (attached); this is the preferred format for W3C, for obvious reasons, > not least of which is that it can be viewed in email clients and our > online archives without opening it in a separate app. I hope this helps > the conversation. > > I took the further liberty of adding a couple of links that I found > helpful in reading it; I didn't know before what BIBFRAME was, so I > linked to the Wikipedia article on that; I also added a link to the > BIBFRAME Annotation Model whitepaper, because I was confused about the > way you were using the word "annotation". I hope my links help others on > this list. > > As I said on the last telcon, if the deliverables of this WG help your > use case, that's great; if the data model or other specs can be tweaked > to be more helpful to your particular need, that seems like a good idea. > > The web has become the overwhelming success it is today because people > took the basic building blocks provided to them, and used them for > creative purposes unforeseen. Few people would have thought at the > beginning of the Web, "hey, let's take this document format and use it > to build full-powered applications." But that's what we did, and that's > what makes it great. > > So, if you see some of the basic building blocks of Web Annotations and > think, "hey, we can use that to build a distributed bibliographic > reference system that allows 'class inheritance' or 'subtyping' of > bibliographic entries to add information (like whether our library has a > copy of this book)", then that's useful, especially if it means that > some of that content can be directly exposed through the web more > easily. If we don't have to do anything special to meet your use case, > and it just works out of the box, even better! > > For me, however, that's not an exemplar of a Web Annotation. It's a > specialized use with some overlap. Your technical terminology uses the > word "annotation", but I think you mean it in a slightly different sense > than what I'd call an annotation (and more like what I'd call > "inheritance"). > > (For those not familiar with exemplar theory: if I ask you to name a > type of bird, you're likely to say "pigeon" or "starling" or "hawk" or > "duck"; you're less likely to say "ostrich", and even less likely still > to say "penguin". These are all fine birds, but the latter 2 have fewer > features in common with other birds. Members of a category that have > more features in common with other members of that category are known > as > "exemplars".) > > If an annotation only has a link selection, and no body (e.g., a > highlight), is it an annotation? How about if the body of the annotation > is simply a link to another lengthy resource, or there's no body but two > link selections? How about if the body of the annotation is a link to an > image or video, which is then rendered inline in the annotation viewer? > Yes, those are all annotations, but they aren't exemplars, in my opinion. > > Why is this relevant? When we're collecting use cases, we're not just > making a list of all possible uses for a technology. We're communicating > an aspirational goal for our desired outcome to a wide community of > potential stakeholders, in an effort to get them involved because they > see relevance to what they're doing; so you might think that we want to > cast the net as broadly as possible. But we're also trying to convince > them that this effort is worth investing resources in, and that the odds > of success are high, which means that we are clear on our goals and > priorities, and that we are focused on a set of smaller gains that lead > toward broader wins. > > With that in mind, my preference would be for our use cases and > requirements to be framed in terms of those exemplars that the broadest > audience is likely to relate to. It might be as simple as casting the > actors. So, when I think of your cover art example, I might say: > > Anna is reading a short story on her ebook reader, and the main > character reminds her of a drawing by her friend; she annotates an > instance of the character's name with a link to the drawing online. Ben > works at a library, and has gotten permission to add the short story to > their ebook collection; he wants to find cover art for it, so he > searches an online annotation service for annotations on the short story > that include images, and finds Anna's annotation. Ben obtains permission > from the artist to use the image, and publishes the short story with its > new cover art. > > (I might have added some social aspect to it, like, "Ben replies to > Anna's annotation asking for the source, and Anna connects him to her > friend.") > > This still covers your use case, but it does so in a narrative that > emphasizes different aspects of the desired ecosystem; it's got the > distributed aspect, an end user reading and annotating a selection in an > ebook, online annotation services, linking to online image services, > social media, search and discovery, all wrapped up in a story, with > characters who have motivations. It feels less like "there's a > collection of data in a database, we don't care how the data got there, > and we searched the database", and more like, "here's a bunch of people > in the wonderful future world of web annotations! Huzzah!" (And hey, > maybe Anna works at a library, too, so this might be the very same story > you told.) It includes an exemplar act of annotation, something that > could only happen with web annotations, rather than a story that could > substitute "Google image search" for "annotation" (of course, Google > could index annotations to add relevance to their image search...). > > You might think this is trivial, but I think it makes a real difference > in the story we're trying to tell people about this new thing called > "Web Annotations", which they are trying to distinguish from other > technologies. > > Does that seem reasonable to you? > > Regards- > -Doug > > On 12/19/14 10:50 AM, Denenberg, Ray wrote: > > At the recent call I promised to elaborate on the use cases I had > > suggested, including cover art, and to try to explain why I think that > > cover art really is an annotation use case. In order to do that I need > > to provide background on some of the thinking within the > > library/bibliographic community about annotations (specifically the > > thinking with the BIBFRAME project, http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/). So I > > have prepared a (roughly) two-and-a-half page discussion paper that > > tries to provide background, in “layman” terms (i.e. for those not > > familiar with library/bibliographic terminology). The paper is attached > > and I hope you will take the time to read it and to comment. > > > > (Note: I am not sure if this is the proper way to contribute a paper; if > > not, let me know how.) > > > > Ray > > >
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