- From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:08:18 +0000
- To: Shervin Afshar <safshar@netflix.com>
- CC: public-alreq-admin@w3.org
On 10/20/15 2:46 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote: > Najib, > > I think these are excellent topics to start "Font and Typography > Considerations" section. Are you willing to produce some text for this > section? I can contribute comments, examples and also text if needed (but not good writer ;-) Najib > > Additionally, we can also discuss topics related to common > calligraphic classification which extends to fonts (Kufi, Naskh, > Nastaliq, Diwani, Thulth, Rouqaa, and Magriby)[a] and good practices > when it comes to typography. > > [a]: Variation of the list that Lazrek et. al have in Arabic Math > document. > > Best regards, > Shervin > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@gmail.com > <mailto:ntounsi@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Precisely, those (google) fonts Kufi and Naskh are on the rise > now, and it is not about discouraging people from using them. On > the contrary, I find that Arabic Naskh is a good compromise for > readability and size, and it is perfect for mixed texts. > > It's just a matter of good practice as you say. > > My point is that sometimes the Kufi-like or Andalous-like fonts > are used "excessively". It might result in: > 1) an accessibility problem (scrolling subtitles for example) > 2) or a confusion in reading. > For example, in some cases you might confuse between the letters > "Teh+Noun" and the letter "Sheen", in these two words التنمية and > اشمية, as shown in this image (word Atanmiya and Achmia, > font-family: KacstTitle) [1]: > Atanmiya vs Achmia > > There are other examples. > > Best regards, > > Najib > > [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/tanmiya-vs-achmia.png > > > > > > On 10/19/15 11:55 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote: >> >> I generally avoid Kufi style for body text and reserve it for >> display usages only (e.g. titles, headings, etc.) and go with >> Naskh style for body text. But this is mostly a matter of good >> practices in typography rather than discouraging folks to use a >> specific font. >> >> Best regards, >> Shervin >> >> On Oct 19, 2015 1:47 PM, "Najib Tounsi" <ntounsi@gmail.com >> <mailto:ntounsi@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I have a thought about font-family types and when to use each >> type. (Fill an issue?) >> >> Font family can be classified by "style or decoration" >> between two extremes, from raw type (courier/fixed-width… >> let's call it textual) to calligraphic type, via various >> other types more or less stylish (the latter ranging from, >> e.g. Arial to Apple Chancery/Lucida Calligraphy etc). There >> is for all tastes. (see my sample [1] ....) >> >> Precisely, should we "allow" any fonts to apply anywhere, or >> should there be some typographical rules? Especially in >> Arabic, where it is very tempting to use nice letters. >> >> I think also readability might be better in the other way >> round, from the more stylish fonts (less readable) to the >> less stylish (more readable). It can be considered as an >> accessibility issue in some cases (e.g. video subtitles). >> >> For example, to do it pretty, some may use (and abuse of) >> stylish fonts everywhere. An example here [2] (OK not bad). A >> typical case also are subtitles or video scripts [3]. >> >> Anyway, a typographical rule could be that the stylish fonts >> are for titles banners etc ... and normal fonts are for, >> say, the content of paragraphs. >> >> Here are some examples (image snapshot): >> - Title decorative, paragraph normal ( >> http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/aljazeera.png ) >> - Title decorative, paragraph decorative >> (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/arado-deco-font4all.png) >> - Title normal, paragraph normal >> (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/asharq-text-font4all.png) >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Najib >> >> [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Sample.pdf >> [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Sample.html >> [2] http://www.arado.org.eg/ >> [3] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/subtitle1.jpg >> [3] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/subtitle2.jpg >> > >
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