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Re: Font-family types and when to use each type

From: Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:08:18 +0000
Message-ID: <562666F2.9070005@emi.ac.ma>
To: Shervin Afshar <safshar@netflix.com>
CC: public-alreq-admin@w3.org
On 10/20/15 2:46 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
> Najib,
>
> I think these are excellent topics to start "Font and Typography 
> Considerations" section. Are you willing to produce some text for this 
> section?

I can contribute comments, examples and also text if needed (but not 
good writer ;-)

Najib

>
> Additionally, we can also discuss topics related to common 
> calligraphic classification which extends to fonts (Kufi, Naskh, 
> Nastaliq, Diwani, Thulth, Rouqaa, and Magriby)[a] and good practices 
> when it comes to typography.
>
> [a]: Variation of the list that Lazrek et. al have in Arabic Math 
> document.
>
> Best regards,
> Shervin
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Najib Tounsi <ntounsi@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ntounsi@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Precisely, those (google) fonts Kufi and Naskh are on the rise
>     now, and it is not about discouraging people from using them. On
>     the contrary, I find that Arabic Naskh is a good compromise for
>     readability and size, and it is perfect for mixed texts.
>
>     It's just a matter of good practice as you say.
>
>     My point is that sometimes the Kufi-like or Andalous-like fonts
>     are used "excessively". It might result in:
>     1) an accessibility problem (scrolling subtitles for example)
>     2) or a confusion in reading.
>     For example, in some cases you might confuse between the letters
>     "Teh+Noun" and the letter "Sheen", in these two words  التنمية and
>     اشمية, as shown in this image (word Atanmiya and Achmia,
>     font-family: KacstTitle) [1]:
>     Atanmiya vs Achmia
>
>     There are other examples.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Najib
>
>     [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/tanmiya-vs-achmia.png
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 10/19/15 11:55 PM, Shervin Afshar wrote:
>>
>>     I generally avoid Kufi style for body text and reserve it for
>>     display usages only (e.g. titles, headings, etc.) and go with
>>     Naskh style for body text. But this is mostly a matter of good
>>     practices in typography rather than discouraging folks to use a
>>     specific font.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Shervin
>>
>>     On Oct 19, 2015 1:47 PM, "Najib Tounsi" <ntounsi@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:ntounsi@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear all,
>>
>>         I have a thought about font-family types and when to use each
>>         type. (Fill an issue?)
>>
>>         Font family can be classified by "style or decoration"
>>         between two extremes, from raw type (courier/fixed-width…
>>         let's call it textual) to calligraphic type, via various
>>         other types more or less stylish (the latter ranging from,
>>         e.g.  Arial to Apple Chancery/Lucida Calligraphy etc). There
>>         is for all tastes. (see my sample [1] ....)
>>
>>         Precisely, should we "allow" any fonts to apply  anywhere, or
>>         should there be some typographical rules? Especially in
>>         Arabic, where it is very tempting to use nice letters.
>>
>>         I think also readability might be better in the other way
>>         round, from the more stylish fonts (less readable) to the
>>         less stylish (more readable). It can be considered as an 
>>         accessibility issue in some cases (e.g. video subtitles).
>>
>>         For example, to do it pretty, some  may use (and abuse of)
>>         stylish fonts everywhere. An example here [2] (OK not bad). A
>>         typical case also are subtitles or video scripts [3].
>>
>>         Anyway,  a typographical rule could be that the stylish fonts
>>         are for titles banners etc ... and  normal fonts are for,
>>         say, the content of paragraphs.
>>
>>         Here are some examples (image snapshot):
>>         - Title decorative, paragraph normal (
>>         http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/aljazeera.png )
>>         - Title decorative, paragraph decorative
>>         (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/arado-deco-font4all.png)
>>         - Title normal, paragraph normal
>>         (http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/asharq-text-font4all.png)
>>
>>         Any thoughts?
>>
>>         Najib
>>
>>         [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Sample.pdf
>>         [1] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/Sample.html
>>         [2] http://www.arado.org.eg/
>>         [3] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/subtitle1.jpg
>>         [3] http://www.w3c.org.ma/Tests/Alreq/subtitle2.jpg
>>
>
>
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